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Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:12 am
by Splitpin
Oh my....more money in War thunders bank account.
Charl, sorry about the repeating ground tiles ...this was the only area I could get into yesterday and stay alive.

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Light the fires ...

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and ...boom

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another view

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and away we went

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Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:34 pm
by Aharon
Impressive afterburners!!

Regards,

Aharon

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:54 pm
by Splitpin
Thank you, I was more surprised by the shock wave cloud ...if that's what its called.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:26 pm
by Charl
Marty it's a Mach diamond, although not usually seen when "Breaking the Sound Barrier".
It usually happens at high speed when air moisture content and atmospheric pressure are right.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:44 am
by hasegawa
We have the largest NATO air warfare exercise to date overhead. There's plenty of trouble here. Civil scheduled flights are delayed and the day before yesterday there was the first accident. Two machines collided, but before you could read it, the message disappeared. Seen from this point of view, there is little enthusiasm for such pictures, because we have them live over us.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:24 am
by Splitpin
Charl wrote:Marty it's a Mach diamond, although not usually seen when "Breaking the Sound Barrier".
It usually happens at high speed when air moisture content and atmospheric pressure are right.


Cheers Charl, It seems that any aircraft capable of Mach 1+ in this sim, have that effect built into it.
I remember the last big international airshow at Ohakea, seeing this starting to form on the F-16 and F-18 at various points in their displays.
Thanks for looking Sir.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:00 pm
by Splitpin
hasegawa wrote:We have the largest NATO air warfare exercise to date overhead. There's plenty of trouble here. Civil scheduled flights are delayed and the day before yesterday there was the first accident. Two machines collided, but before you could read it, the message disappeared. Seen from this point of view, there is little enthusiasm for such pictures because we have them live over us.


I understand your sentiment and look forward to your observations from there, thankyou for looking anyway ..... take care.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:44 pm
by deaneb
Charl wrote:Marty it's a Mach diamond, although not usually seen when "Breaking the Sound Barrier".
It usually happens at high speed when air moisture content and atmospheric pressure are right.


Normally the term mach diamonds is used to describe the diamond shaped shock waves what you see in the exhaust when the afterburner is on (also called shock diamonds). The vapour around the fuse is typically called a mach cone. It does not require the aircraft to be exceeding the speed of sound, but happens at transonic speed where air on localised areas of the plane (such as airflow over the top of the wing) is travelling faster than the speed of sound. This causes a pressure drop ( and corresponding temperature drop) along the shock wave. When there is high moisture in the air this temp can reach the dew point and cause the vapour to form at the shock wave.

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:57 pm
by emfrat
I think I remember Marty's nephews getting some great shots of Hercs leaving a spiral trail behind their scimitar-bladed props. :thumbup:

Re: Tornado through the barrier

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 pm
by Charl
deaneb wrote: The vapour around the fuse is typically called a mach cone.

Right. We'll bookmark this post for future reference, then.
There's a whole bunch of YT clips showing this effect under the clickbait "Supersonic Boom" or somesuch.