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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:03 pm
by Naki
Not a likely scenario but had some fun blasting around in this Capt Sim Mig over Marlborough - Woodbourne seems ideal for this type of activity :







Never really worked out the Mig's systems as the manual is not that good and everything is Russian in the cockpit


Woodbourne's runway is just long enough






1900D Intercept




Low level pass & zoom climb over Omaka - a complete contrast to the resident ww1 a/c




Now this is the trickey part - landing - after many attempts & months trying I have mastered it - land just at the right speed (300 km/h) - too slow and you will rapidly sink into the ground.



PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:05 pm
by Alex
Very nice Naki, you're right, the Mig does suit that area. thumbup1.gif

Alex

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:11 pm
by toprob
I love the shape of the Mig, it's a mix of utility and minimalism, a bit like a shark. They certainly didn't put any poofy frills into it.
EDIT: I normally can't bear to look at one of my sceneries for a while after its finished, but you've done just a brilliant job in these shots I'll make an exception:)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:18 pm
by ardypilot
Sharp shooting Naki- I wasn't even aware Captain Sim produced a Mig 21! I just love its nose cone, reminds me of the English Electic Lightning.

I seem to be seeing an awefull lot of Russian craft around latley, with all the TU-95's in the news ninja.gif

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:28 pm
by Naki
toprob wrote:
QUOTE(toprob @ Aug 24 2007, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love the shape of the Mig, it's a mix of utility and minimalism, a bit like a shark. They certainly didn't put any poofy frills into it.
EDIT: I normally can't bear to look at one of my sceneries for a while after its finished, but you've done just a brilliant job in these shots I'll make an exception:)


Thanks Robin, Alex and Trolly.

Haha poofy frills laugh.gif - I had a good look at the real one when it was at Ardmore - it certainly looked very solid and able fly through the proverbial brick wall without any problems.

Trolly - Its quite an old design - dates back to FS 2002 but still more than acceptable nowadays - VC is just a bit fuzzy but otherwise rather nice.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:23 pm
by benwynn
Great Shots!

My cousin just flew an air trainer down last tuesday!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:54 pm
by Ian Warren
Hey Paul ............ mig 21 .. we had one downtown few months back biggrin.gif be interesting to see CapSim 21 against CapSim 104 ? in a furball smile.gif

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:48 am
by Charl
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Aug 25 2007, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Paul ............ mig 21 .. we had one downtown few months back biggrin.gif be interesting to see CapSim 21 against CapSim 104 ? in a furball smile.gif

Mmm would be kinda interesting...
You guys kicked off a nice train of thought - the Fishbed was the most prolific jet fighter ever produced, and it was damn fast, Mach 2.
Paul, does the sim manage to model that?
Also, it remains a most potent weapons platform 50 years on, there are still many in front line service.
With avionics refits and modern missiles these would give an F-16 driver a fright, never mind a poor old Starfighter!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:58 am
by Ian Warren
Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Aug 30 2007, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mmm would be kinda interesting...
You guys kicked off a nice train of thought - the Fishbed was the most prolific jet fighter ever produced, and it was damn fast, Mach 2.
Paul, does the sim manage to model that?
Also, it remains a most potent weapons platform 50 years on, there are still many in front line service.
With avionics refits and modern missiles these would give an F-16 driver a fright, never mind a poor old Starfighter!


Paul , Get that 21 up to Ohakea and ruffle some F16 feathers laugh.gif

Charl , I only d/loaded your teams RNZAF AI package more less as we speak , lookin forward to trt it ... smile.gif

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:04 am
by Charl
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Aug 26 2007, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Charl , I only d/loaded your teams RNZAF AI package more less as we speak , lookin forward to trt it ... smile.gif

Man of your skills...jump into Steve's Anniversary Falcon repaint , load up the F-16 Cross flight, see if you can intercept and formate with them before they cross NZOH!
We'll need a screenshot...
Something like this

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:20 am
by Ian Warren
Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Aug 30 2007, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man of your skills...jump into Steve's Anniversary Falcon repaint , load up the F-16 Cross flight, see if you can intercept and formate with them before they cross NZOH!
We'll need a screenshot...
Something like this

I think that is going to be a goodie for all to try out smile.gif A super idea for a NZFF screenshot compo challenge clapping.gif thumbup1.gif

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:30 am
by SUBS17
Nice shots that Mig21 reminds me of the one I sat in at Pokeno once BTW in Aussie there is a 2nd Mig21 that is airworthy and is flown by ex RAAF pilots. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw one flying over here.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:11 pm
by Naki
Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Aug 26 2007, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mmm would be kinda interesting...
You guys kicked off a nice train of thought - the Fishbed was the most prolific jet fighter ever produced, and it was damn fast, Mach 2.
Paul, does the sim manage to model that?
Also, it remains a most potent weapons platform 50 years on, there are still many in front line service.
With avionics refits and modern missiles these would give an F-16 driver a fright, never mind a poor old Starfighter!


Actually I am not sure whether the sim model will do Mach 2. I'll have to take it to altitude and see - I have certainly had it over Mach 1. Edit - I can confirm it will go Mach 2 - in clean configuration I got it up to well over Mach 2 and off the dial and up to 100,000 ft which is as far as you can go in FS 9 - seems over optimistic perhaps

Yep there are still a lot of 21s out there - probably the most modern in terms of avionics are the ones operated by Romania which has modern Israeli avionics in them. I think India have the most in service nowadays with several hundred. One limiting factor with the Mig 21 is the lack of a decent combat radius.

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Aug 26 2007, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paul , Get that 21 up to Ohakea and ruffle some F16 feathers laugh.gif

Charl , I only d/loaded your teams RNZAF AI package more less as we speak , lookin forward to trt it ... smile.gif


Hey good idea - I'll give it a go.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:16 pm
by Naki
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Aug 25 2007, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Paul ............ mig 21 .. we had one downtown few months back biggrin.gif be interesting to see CapSim 21 against CapSim 104 ? in a furball smile.gif


I have heard the F-104 is even harder to land than the Mig which must make near impossible! I reckon the 21 wil out turn the F-104 - the F-104 looks like it only goes in straight line (hence the nickname missle with a man in it) biggrin.gif

SUBS17 wrote:
QUOTE(SUBS17 @ Aug 26 2007, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice shots that Mig21 reminds me of the one I sat in at Pokeno once BTW in Aussie there is a 2nd Mig21 that is airworthy and is flown by ex RAAF pilots. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw one flying over here.


I think the one in Pokeno is now in Chch which Ian alludes to. I have heard the one in Aussie is not flown anymore due to high maintenance and general running costs but I might be wrong - yes I thought we mighht see one fly here too - maybe one day.