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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:35 pm
by hugh
Just got my first payware aircraft, the Uiver DC-2, for FS 9/FSX. This might get to be a habit"¦.




From above you can see how much narrower the fuselage is than a DC-3. Its basically a box shape rather than a cylinder.
For the DC-3 Douglas would round out the fuselage, up engine power, add more wingspan and make many other mods,
ending up with an almost completely new aircraft




This is what happens if you forget to throttle back after climb-out. Where's that fire extinguisher?
The flight notes recommend no more than a few minutes at full throttle, or:"Â￾the engines WILL fail"Â￾..


Looking forward from the passenger cabin door


And back from the flight deck


Meant to be flown from the VC, but the 2D panel is nice too. You'll be needing that prop feather...


American Airlines cabin. Loo door opens, should you feel the need. The KLM and TWA cabins look pretty good too,
but you don't get Life magazine




I haven't had it long enough to comment much on the flight characteristics, but it has a short take-off run, almost behaves like
a STOL aircraft with the flaps engaged. Fun! If you're interested in the technical differences between the DC-2 and the DC-3
this article is a great read: http://www.cnac.org/aircraft02.htm

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:04 pm
by ardypilot
That model looks brilliant, although I much prefer the DC-3's design.

Well done showing it off, what scenery is that?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:08 pm
by Naki
Nice shots & A/C Hugh - will make an interesting comparison with the excellent MAAM DC-3 - Andrew I think the scenery is Godzone photoreal Dunedin/Otago.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:15 pm
by hugh
Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Nov 29 2007, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
will make an interesting comparison with the excellent MAAM DC-3

I'd like to see that one, too, if anyone posts here would be great- or any other Douglas propliners .
Yes the scenerys are Godzone Taeri and Hampden, plus some of NZ scenerys Hamner Springs

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:10 am
by Charl
Nice write-up Hugh.
I was scrolling down:
QUOTE
From above you can see how much narrower the fuselage is than a DC-3. Its basically a box shape rather than a cylinder.
For the DC-3 Douglas would round out the fuselage, ...[/quote] and down some more, and bingo! Back-to-back shots showing exactly what you were talking about.
Couple of copy editors I know could take a lesson there.
Thanks for the link too, great read.
I guess the White Horses had a great deal to do with how far you were prepared to stick your neck out in those days!

Let's see what Wingman comes up with in this thread, then...

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:38 pm
by Ian Warren
HUGH Great views/shots of your DC-2 , the early years .. so much the same aircraft , smile.gif Your address and link thumbup1.gif

I haven't had it long enough to comment much on the flight characteristics, but it has a short take-off run, almost behaves like
a STOL aircraft with the flaps engaged. Fun! If you're interested in the technical differences between the DC-2 and the DC-3
this article is a great read: http://www.cnac.org/aircraft02.htm

smile.gif I had the Jump-seat from Wanaka to Wigram (WANAKA WARBIRD 2002), the ease the pilots had , interesting to see how they reed the weather as they go , Very experienced Alister Johnson , on landing at Wiggy , said "you used a lot of runway there" , 'Dave' the First Officer looked over with a smile .

There is a Quote in one off many writings .. ' Any ham-fisted pilot could land a DC-3 in a cabbage patch! ' . smile.gif

It's now time to take a ride in the MAAM DC-3/C47 ...

to get a look .. me ! the window seat .. speed .... WHAMO thumbup1.gif

My seat , from Wigram to Wanaka , GREAT thumbup1.gif... ohmy.gif This time return


Time for startup ,



The Crowds ..













MAAM DAK ..... REALNZ WANAKA drool.gif

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:25 pm
by ardypilot
I didn't know there were any kiwi repaints for the MAAM dak, or I would have bought it a long time ago! It looks just like the real thing inside, miles better than the ole FS9 default model!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:41 pm
by kiwibarguy
The 3rd to last of Ian's dc-3 looks near real!! Awesome sunlight bouncing of it! Great shots Ian! biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:52 pm
by Charl
He's a GREAT salesman, is Wingman!
Now then, what was so darn interesting at Wanaka that the entire crowd saw fit to ignore the Dak???

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:19 pm
by Naki
Trolly wrote:
QUOTE (Trolly @ Nov 25 2007, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't know there were any kiwi repaints for the MAAM dak, or I would have bought it a long time ago! It looks just like the real thing inside, miles better than the ole FS9 default model!


Andrew, Andrew! its on my pinned payware aircraft NZ repaint list! See here

Nice shots Ian!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:30 pm
by hugh
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Nov 30 2007, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
:) I had the Jump-seat from Wanaka to Wigram


I would so love to fly in a DC 3... those shots have sold me, esp those interior shots and yes the 3rd one from the bottom is very real, I have to get over to that site - I thought the default DC 3 was pretty nice but that MAAM model is really something special.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:22 pm
by gokanru
That MAAM dc3 takes a bit of beating,nice aircraft to fly in the sim.The 2004 version doesn't have a paint job of ZK AWP like the 2002 version had.Haven't had a chance to try it in FSX yet,might wait till the guys at MAAM get it together a bit more for that version.Great paint job of the Pionair Ian :clap:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:54 am
by hasegawa
Well, this aircraft is a piece of history. The Boeing 247D and this DC-2 are the first modern airliners in the world. Look at the aircraft, produced in other countrys at the same time. Look at the Junkers Ju 52 or the Savoia Marchetti S.M. 79, or have a look at those british aircraft of the same time, all these Biplanes ... Now worldwide are only two examples of this aircraft left. One of them and the only in flying condition is the the aircraft of the Museum in the Netherlands, that gave us this aircraft here... and the smal amount of money for this copy is to maintain the original.

Think, it is a good idea to buy this aircraft and help, that we do not forget this aircraft with history.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:30 pm
by Ian Warren
I might check it out , a buy as a transfer to my brother for Xmas , sure his son Zach would enjoy it , as mention likely chance he may be workin on one in Albury/Wodonga NSW/VIC , SURE IT CAN be done :) FlightOne - software good with security key ;) .

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:17 pm
by hugh
hasegawa wrote:
QUOTE (hasegawa @ Dec 21 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Boeing 247D and this DC-2 are the first modern airliners in the world. Think, it is a good idea to buy this aircraft and help, that we do not forget this aircraft with history.

The Boeing 247 freeware by Jens Kristensen is a very nice depiction of the first modern airliner



They were pretty cramped inside compared to a DC 2, the wing spar goes through the cabin, you had to step over it.. Apart from the size of the cabin, the Boeing just flys like an older less powerful plane, if the flight model is accurate. It takes a long time to unstick, the DC 2 just wants to leave the ground as soon as you apply full throttle.


Once the DC 2 appeared airlines stopped buying them and there is now only one still flying. JBK has uploaded an update with the modern sloping windscreen that came in for the later models. The early forward-sloping windscreen looks kind of retro-cool to me though.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:04 pm
by Ian Warren
Hugh , Love the original in flight photo from the era , :) its funny that William Boeing left his company , and in 1936 brought himself a DC-3 :clap:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:00 am
by NormNZ
Hugh - and anyone else who is not aware of the site. Heaps of repaints including Pionair, NAC, RNZAF etc.
They have an upgrade from the original release for FSX and MAAM must be one of the first to provide a fix for the problems that Acceleration presented re props and VC transparency issues (see avsim MAAM forum).
A beautiful model for a sentimental 'oldie"

http://www.maam.org/flightsim/enhance/enha...AINT%20TEXTURES

Norm