Aviation Art in Action

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (deeknow @ Dec 1 2014,5:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Love the Connie

Dean .. following Dan's post - That lead into the next , is again another Connie - this time, United States Navy's AEWBARRONPAC VP-1 , this hopefully will be signed by crews .. but its sure going to be a lot more dramatic .. Idea is really cooking in the brain case , Very good friend and a member here is passing thru details again in colour so its going to be fun !

Scary part this maybe the second off four Lockheed Constellation pieces .. one again happens to be flying out of Christchurch 1968 or roundabout - other ...

I really want to do that shoot-down off the EC-121M from VQ-1 in 1969.

[deeknow]

(sorry to hijack the thread Ian but..) there's a decent discount on the JustFlight Connie at present if anyones interested
see: http://www.fspilotshop.com/justflight-cons...oad-p-2789.html

[Splitpin]

Saw this in the flesh yesterday ..... the posted image doesn't do it justice at all .
The process these works go through is amazing , Im glad to have seen a few of them from concept to frame .... clever bugger I.W

[Naki]

Nice one Ian..ever considered making a calendar?

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (Naki @ Dec 1 2014,9:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Nice one Ian..ever considered making a calendar?

Good thought Naki ...... Ian ?? what do you think ?

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (deeknow @ Dec 1 2014,8:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

(sorry to hijack the thread Ian but..) there's a decent discount on the JustFlight Connie at present if anyones interested

I have all three packs, strange when you draw it and really study the aircraft .... wish they would return to it , wish I had the opportunity to beta test that one.

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Dec 1 2014,9:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Saw this in the flesh yesterday ..... the posted image doesn't do it justice at all .
The process these works go through is amazing , Im glad to have seen a few of them from concept to frame .... clever bugger I.W

Thanks matey ..... Wait till start cooking on the next , I think a real Chrissy/new year project.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Naki @ Dec 1 2014,9:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Nice one Ian..ever considered making a calendar?

To produce one a month, I stalled on the 'SUBHUNTER' took 11 months to confirm, a lot off the details were incorrect from the Wigram Museum painting and research into the Type VIIC U-boat and it gun positions meant .. least I placed the aircraft attacking from the stern port quarter rather from the bow .. that class or U-468 had two twin 20mm but at the rear off the conning tower, to get such direct hits would impossible because the gun would not be able to train forward , a B-24 is 67ft long , the survivors it was only 50 or so feet above the bridge when the 20mm ripped into the aircraft and crashed and disintegrated close by , thus the few survivors got to the the Lib's life-raft .

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Dec 1 2014,9:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good thought Naki ...... Ian ?? what do you think ?

I think the Calender is out off the question unless in a couple of years time , but maybe a book along the lines of Gavin Conroy's 'Precious Metal' with the history to go with it.

Since July, I have only done five drawings - that included FGOFF Lloyd Allan Trigg .. draw - print - edit just to get details correct .

[emfrat]

Ian, I have quite a few detail pics of the HARS Connie which I took for Frank Reinaldo. Just say the word...
BTW, Manfred's team put up a fix for that locked nosewheel, but I don't think it will work on paper artwork

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (emfrat @ Dec 2 2014,11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ian, I have quite a few detail pics of the HARS Connie which I took for Frank Reinaldo. Just say the word...
BTW, Manfred's team put up a fix for that locked nosewheel, but I don't think it will work on paper artwork

I met four off the original team , Bryan Millis , Kim Slattery and two others , funny every time I went on board back in 2001 they said and when I met up with Kim again in 2007 GAWD! here comes the spy again .... It was really great to really kick those tires - this drawing is a little pre airshow or today's 'Connie' tho in kept the registration VH-EAG and a little artistic license keeping the HARS logo on the aircraft which was originally named 'Southern Constellation' which was scrapped at Burbank, California in 1965.

[connieflyer]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Nov 30 2014,11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Dean .. following Dan's post - That lead into the next , is again another Connie - this time, United States Navy's AEWBARRONPAC VP-1 , this hopefully will be signed by crews .. but its sure going to be a lot more dramatic .. Idea is really cooking in the brain case , Very good friend and a member here is passing thru details again in colour so its going to be fun !

Scary part this maybe the second off four Lockheed Constellation pieces .. one again happens to be flying out of Christchurch 1968 or roundabout - other ...

I really want to do that shoot-down off the EC-121M from VQ-1 in 1969.

A little history Ian, From 1950 unti1 1969, costing the Navy approximately a dozen electronic reconnaissance aircraft and the loss of at least 79 lives. But the Navy was not the only victim of Communist airborne aggression during the post-war period; the U.S. Air Force also was involved in more than a dozen incidents, wherein at least 46 of its airmen were killed between 1949 and 1964.


The original design of the Constellation was begun in 1939 to meet the requirements of Trans World Airlines. Modifications for the Navy’s WV-2 version were begun in 1949, originally intended as a high-altitude radar early warning aircraft. In the late 1950s eight of these old WV-2s were pulled out of retirement from NAF Litchfield Park, Ariz., and modified extensively by the Martin Company of Baltimore to perform the electronic reconnaissance mission. These eight aircraft were designated WV-2Q and fondly known as “Willie Victorsâ€￾ or simply “Williesâ€￾. Four each of these, redesignated EC-121M in 1962, were assigned to VQ-l and VQ-2 and remained electronic reconnaissance work-horses for many years.


VQ-1 began flying missions in Southeast Asia as early as the spring of 1962

Specific types of support provided by the VQ-1 aircrews were MiG and SAM warning services, electronic order of battle (EOB) updating and electronic intelligence collection in support of combat contingency planning. The VQ-1 SAM warning services were especially crucial to the survival of Navy carrier aircrews flying over North Vietnam because of the lack of deceptive ECM (DECM) systems on tactical aircraft at that time.

In April 1969, a VQ-1 EC-121M and crew of 30 were lost to hostile fire from North Korean MiG fighters. On 14 April the Super Connie, with LCDR James Howard Overstreet as mission commander, took off from Atsugi and headed northeast for a routine electronic reconnaissance mission off the North Korean coast. The flight plan called for the crew to proceed to a point off Musu Peninsula where they were to fly elliptical orbits, each about l20 miles long.

At 1350, a little less than seven hours after takeoff, a U.S. Air Force tracking station monitoring the flight detected two new blips as a pair of North Korean MiGs rapidly closed on the unarmed VQ-1 aircraft. Although a prearranged message was sent to Overstreet ordering him to abort his mission, as the lumbering EC-121M turned away it was shot down southeast of Chongjin, North Korea, with a loss of all thirty crewmen.

The communist regimes have always been very brash about firing on unarmed aircraft, mainly because they knew the US would not retaliate. Many times flying the Pacific Barrier missions we would be flying along side of Russian Bear bombers, sent up to follow us and a little harrasment. Being a "spook" had it's advantages, but also the danger was always there.

[Ian Warren]

Ha ya Don and Welcome back to NZFF , great you posted this history - I love this sort off stuff, ...... this is going to be another painting want to do is the shoot down, the current drawing I'm working on for you , Theme VP-1 Salute is just a little more detail just taking extra effort to get the details correct , thank for all those links you sent through , specifically the radar pickets, I hooked into the USS Robison (DDG-12) which was with the US Pacific Fleet, it main base was San Diego and detached to Hawaii on mid to late 1960 cruisers.

[connieflyer]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Dec 20 2014,3:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ha ya Don and Welcome back to NZFF , great you posted this history - I love this sort off stuff, ...... this is going to be another painting want to do is the shoot down, the current drawing I'm working on for you , Theme VP-1 Salute is just a little more detail just taking extra effort to get the details correct , thank for all those links you sent through , specifically the radar pickets, I hooked into the USS Robison (DDG-12) which was with the US Pacific Fleet, it main base was San Diego and detached to Hawaii on mid to late 1960 cruisers.

Sounds great Ian, can not wait to see what your mind's eye has come up with this time. It is one of the things that really intrigues me, how you take an image of a plane, ship whatever, and then add drama, lighting, and action to it to convey scenes that are like a snapshot in time. Keep up the good work Ian, Mom says hello.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (connieflyer @ Dec 21 2014,2:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Keep up the good work Ian, Mom says hello.

Say Hi back from me "Hi Mom" , Thanks Don , all those miss spent hours at school when I was suppose to be learning something , army training manuals (war comics) were a good source

[chopper_nut]

Good to see how the B24 has progressed since I last saw it. Very nice.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Dec 21 2014,3:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good to see how the B24 has progressed since I last saw it. Very nice.

Thanks Nick, I have put that one in the think tank department , tracking down actual details , the fun part about it

[chopper_nut]

You should do some tuna helicopter ones haha

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Dec 21 2014,4:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You should do some tuna helicopter ones haha

Don't joke about it ... Already thought along those lines and who better to correct me or for details .

[Ian Warren]

One thought, a Westpac Rescue theme, making a very dynamic operation and see how the Foundation takes to it, I'm sure a fifty/fifty split for donations and to help my profile, another I have been working on .. all these superb ideas and to capture imagination

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Dec 21 2014,4:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You should do some tuna helicopter ones haha

Good idea .... some damm good video to work off

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Dec 21 2014,6:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good idea .... some damm good video to work off

Think I'd have to get more aggressive, heavy ocean swell material.