New pc

[Dash8captain]

it i just wont bother at all..... life is enough as it is, i thought flight sim might help me through this hole but i dont think it's worth it anymore..

[dbcunnz]

it i just wont bother at all..... life is enough as it is, i thought flight sim might help me through this hole but i dont think it's worth it anymore..

We do try and help but it is useless trying to help someone whose mind is already made up on what he wants.
The only help I can give is that any of those PC you were looking at would run FSX or Stream maxed out.
But what others are trying to tell you is that the 64bit sims are the future sims and just because all the aircraft have not been updated for them yet they are getting updated free if you already own them for FSX also a lot of the FSX aircraft can be imported into P3D v4 also the NZ photo scenery works in P3Dv4.
As for the price it is just under NZ$100 to get the Academic version and I find it a huge improvement to FSX and it is being upgraded with improvements all the time where as FSX is dead in its tracks and what you have now is as good as it will ever be.
I still have my FSX installed but only use it for testing my photo scenery for those that haven't taken the plunge to the 64bit sims.

[Dash8captain]

Im sorry to have bothered anyone in this topic, cased closed..

[Dash8captain]

Apologies for the comments earlier to be honest im going through a tough time with other things atm

Im now thinking of going to p3dv4 my question now is i have purchases with orbx and pmdg etc will i need to repurchase them again or just re download them again?

[toprob]

Yeah, for a forum where not much is going on, there's certainly a lot going on!
I think you'd need to look at each addon, as policies vary. Orbx is probably the easiest, although it does involve downloading everything, just run FTX Central after installing v4 and you can then ask it to just install everything for you.
PMDG, I'm not sure about, but I think they don't do free updates, and their Prepar3d prices are steep... I only have one PMDG aircraft, a comp prize, and I think I flew it once, far too complex for me!

[Dash8captain]

Yeah, for a forum where not much is going on, there's certainly a lot going on!
I think you'd need to look at each addon, as policies vary. Orbx is probably the easiest, although it does involve downloading everything, just run FTX Central after installing v4 and you can then ask it to just install everything for you.
PMDG, I'm not sure about, but I think they don't do free updates, and their Prepar3d prices are steep... I only have one PMDG aircraft, a comp prize, and I think I flew it once, far too complex for me!

Yea well there again is another reason to stay with fsx

[toprob]

Yeah, it was a bit of a jolt going to P3D v4 with absolutely no addons, but really it only took a couple of months to get my favourites updated. Still, as I said, no PMDG to worry about, that's a big investment if you need to pay twice, and the P3D premium. BUT, I'm still recommending getting a system for 64 bit sims, and keeping FSX for as long as you need it, you can run plenty of different sims at the same time -- I have FSX, Prepar3d v3, Prepar3d v4, X-plane 11, Flight Sim World, Aerofly FS 2... some are just there to check compatibility of my scenery, it's been a loooong time since I actually took a flight in FSX, and I don't think I've yet to do a full flight in FSW. So I regularly fly Prepar3d v4, X-plane, with a bit of Aerofly just as I develop some NZ coverage.
I have not yet bought any addons for 'other' sims, such as X-plane, as I'm not made of money. Come to think of it, it's been a while since I bought anything, so I can fully understand keeping what you have, if it works for you.

[hoki1185]

Hang in there Dash.I fly the same planes you do and they are best catered for in FSX especially with upcoming releases of the Q300 and ATR.If you go with one of your aforementioned computer options then you will be well served where FSX is concerned.Look to perhaps update in a couple of years to another platform and you can still run FSX on the computer you buy now.There is never a right time to buy'technology',it is changing constantly and rapidly.

[deeknow]

Hey Terry. I've just recently gone through the exact same process you are, considering what to choose on a new install.

I ended up going P3D and I recommend you do the same. A lot of the FSX payware aircraft and scenery will just work as is without having to buy upgrades if you grab a copy of the Estonia migration tool.
see: https://www.flightsim.ee/

Most of my old FSX aircraft and and many scenery titles work just fine in P3D. Some may require a few tweaks here or there and theres lots of forums around that can help you there, Google is your friend as usual. Some titles may flat out refuse to work but the majority will.

Since I bought P3D I've only bought P3D add-on titles of course so have moved on completely.

No sense in leaving yourself stuck in the past w FSX IMHO, go for P3D mate
PS - your PC spec (either of those you posted) will be fine. My PC itself is now 3 years old, it is overclocked, and I have just bought an 1060Ti GPU, but it performs just fine.

[Dash8captain]

Well I tried P3DV4 on my current PC which I can run fsx reasonably well wit sliders maxed apart from in busy airports it gets a bit slow, and guess what with noo addons at all default aircraft etc and it set on low graphics settings all I can achieve is a measly 4.5FPS!

Doesn't give me much encouragement really not that im not trying to use P3D but even on a new PC I feel it will have is limits where FSX wont

Lol perhaps I should give up

[Fozzer]

When pretending to fly aeroplanes is no longer fun, its time to take up Fly-fishing instead...

...Trust me...

I only do things which are fun!.... ..... ....!

Paul..... ...!

[Dash8captain]

Anyone else with any tips?

[toprob]

Only thing I'd add, if it hasn't been said before -- if you have your heart set on FSX, then you need to think in terms of an overclockable CPU, as no matter how flash it is, you'll only get FSX running on a single core, so the main factor is going to be clock speed. Save money on RAM (8 is fine) and GPU, but spend a fortune on overclocking/cooling...

[Dash8captain]

Only thing I'd add, if it hasn't been said before -- if you have your heart set on FSX, then you need to think in terms of an overclockable CPU, as no matter how flash it is, you'll only get FSX running on a single core, so the main factor is going to be clock speed. Save money on RAM (8 is fine) and GPU, but spend a fortune on overclocking/cooling...

So the latest gen i7 is going to be adequate im guessing?

[toprob]

For me, yes, but I know that some people have different requirements. I have a 5-year-old i5, and FSX has all settings all the way up, locked to 40FPS, and is rock-steady. But for people who want 120FPS, it wouldn't work. And it still looks like a 90s video game...
What I really meant was the latest gen i7 is great, but it will still be hobbled by FSX's inability to use much of it. You may be better off with a five-year-old i7 'k' overclocked to the limits of what your neighbourhood power grid can handle -- you want a CPU/cooling system which makes the lights flicker when you start flying...

[Dash8captain]

Okay i see very interesting, all im wanting is it to be able to run at atleast 30fps when im in a busy airport im not concerned about how very detailed the terrain is as i only really fly airliners

My current rig is ok but the frame rates are very average at times in places where its busy etc either way im going to buy a decent new rig and im probably gonna go with fsx and if later on i feel i need to upgrade to p3d well i will be able to especially if i get this pc with an ssd

https://trademe.co.nz/1374418127

[Dash8captain]

For me, yes, but I know that some people have different requirements. I have a 5-year-old i5, and FSX has all settings all the way up, locked to 40FPS, and is rock-steady. But for people who want 120FPS, it wouldn't work. And it still looks like a 90s video game...
What I really meant was the latest gen i7 is great, but it will still be hobbled by FSX's inability to use much of it. You may be better off with a five-year-old i7 'k' overclocked to the limits of what your neighbourhood power grid can handle -- you want a CPU/cooling system which makes the lights flicker when you start flying...

By the way toprob does your excellent scenery work in p3dv4?

[toprob]

There are v4 installers coming, I had hoped to have them done by now, but there are a lot of things which changed in v4. I only just this morning solved the second to last issue, now there's only an overly-bright night-time tarmac at Nelson to fix... And specular shine on the tarmac is very different from v3 to v4, so there will need to be separate versions for each, otherwise you'd go blind taxiing at Nelson in v3. I'm beginning to see why developers are quitting earlier versions, if I just had to develop for v4 then things would be a lot quicker, albeit more complicated...

I've added dynamic lights to the tarmac at Nelson and Dunedin, plus updated the old-style ground polys at Nelson. So Nelson will probably be first with the v4 installer, very very soon:) Dunedin is ready to go, but I am waiting for the 'final' version of the autogen merger tool for v4, and the developer is on holiday at the moment.

[cowpatz]

......... but I am waiting for the 'final' version of the autogen merger tool for v4, and the developer is on holiday at the moment.

What is it with developers and holidays?