NZFF

by **Naki** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:11 am

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Dec 22 2011,3:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just to brighten things up a bit ... Markus Hellwig's excellent Bushwagon at Mount Cook (spot the deliberate mistake!!) ...

Youv'e left the skis in a down position?

by **toprob** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:12 am

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Dec 22 2011,3:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, NZSI seems to have the background hills entirely covered by bush. May be worth doing a Google satellite view on that. I'm not entirely sure I like VLC's "blobby" texture boundaries here. I even prefer the default FSX in that respect.

No need to go to Google -- here's photo scenery showing the actual hill. The photo only extends a little way, the rest in this shot is NZSI.

Adam's VLC shot is by far the closest to reality, the only thing which prevents it from being perfect is the mix'n match default textures. It really needs its own set of custom textures, which would also smooth the transition between vectors.

Oops, not as effective a post since the thread has gone to a new page, so I'll repeat Adam shots here:

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:22 am

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Dec 22 2011,11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Youv'e left the skis in a down position?

Paul ....

thats not like you ! ... quick someone in Tauranga get to him quik ! he needs some Christmas Cheer ..

Kahu wrote:
QUOTE (Kahu @ Dec 22 2011,10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure a Harrier will be perfect for these airfields

YES! ... but now you need to get across to Paul , your in the Mount .. think Naki is in trouble , away with you and your Harrier

by **Adamski** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:37 am

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Dec 22 2011,11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Youv'e left the skis in a down position?

They've been down for so long they feel like up to me!

by **toprob** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:25 pm

Here's a closer look at that hill:

by **Adamski** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:34 pm

What can I say but OUCH!! Or ... as the UK Daily Mail would say ... "GOTCHA!"

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:02 pm

"GOTCHA!"

Adam .. to true , quiet a few areas known to be out , Greg 'scaber' frequent,s the West Coast and pointed out many areas - points i thought were out looked and Greg confirmed , Greymouth - also have so much media recent is wildly mis-interpt , I would have thought that would be corrected from the start , the famous Coast to Coast starts shortly further south all appears to be .. well lost the plot here .. but with a little fix , guess like adding in the little towns , as much as we can get from LINZ , if B/W colour it then place , i believe it would be the most accurate South Island , just requires a little time and a lotta work on our part but not to be kicked on factual areas , course to move fence lines and other objects without flak.

by **toprob** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:21 pm

I don't mean to imply that FTX NZSI is faulty -- just that it isn't the one true NZ which everyone has been hoping for. Orbx have acknowledged that there are some bugs to be fixed, such as the missing towns, but their representation of the South Island is designed with a different set of goals than VLC. Let's face it, how many FTX customers are actually going to visit Murchison in their lifetime? Orbx's SI is designed to be an ideal wilderness for people who have never seen one, and it certainly is nice to look at.

by **dbcunnz** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:48 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Dec 22 2011,2:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Orbx's SI is designed to be an ideal wilderness for people who have never seen one, and it certainly is nice to look at.

Maybe so but what about if they were to visit NZSI in real life they may be very disappointed not being able to find all that lush green and all those trees unless someone gets real busy irrigating and planting trees before the visitors arrive.

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:47 pm

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 22 2011,3:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe so but what about if they were to visit NZSI in real life ................... unless someone gets real busy irrigating and planting trees before the visitors arrive.

The 'Visitors' have already arrived .... they called the series 'V'

by **Rotordude** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:46 pm

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Dec 22 2011,3:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just to brighten things up a bit ... Markus Hellwig's excellent Bushwagon at Mount Cook (spot the deliberate mistake!!) ...

You need the 185 update that has been out for ohh about a year, fix's the reverse texture issue on the tail.

by **Splitpin** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:57 pm

Orbx schmorbix, VLC / Real NZ/FS Creations/ Ian / Snowman......thats all I need......who needs these upstart imposters. just my opinion....sue me if you wish

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:10 pm

I'm ya Lawyer .. i need a job .... saw that movie .. 'My cousin Vince' boy can i argue ..

... I saw that ....... ILL KILL YOU ! .. no really

by **connor** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:23 pm

Forgive me for putting my 10c in now, I haven't been following this thread at all.

But this is how I see it:

The majority of the Orbx Landclass products are designed to give a representation of the actual terrain, whilst making a visually stimulating and economically viable product. I'm not saying they cut corners, they just come at it with a different approach.

Vector Land-Class attempts to "re-define New Zealand in FSX," to make it as accurate as possible with the available features of default fsx. This gives a product that is visually stimulating, not because it was designed with that in mind, but because it is recognizable to those of us who live in NZ, and is accurate to the photo's, video's and memories of those who don't.

I hope this makes sense, and I'm not sounding any more like a blabbering idiot than usual.

As for me, I'm more than happy with VLC, as well as keeping the money in NZ. The support for the product is warm and easy to deal with too. And to top it all off, there are many, many airfields popping up all over nz looking great thanks to VLC.

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:46 pm

connor wrote:
QUOTE (connor @ Dec 22 2011,7:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this makes sense, and I'm not sounding any more like a blabbering idiot than usual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmYR4gldMrQ

by **Adamski** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:19 pm

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Dec 22 2011,6:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You need the 185 update that has been out for ohh about a year, fix's the reverse texture issue on the tail.

Thanks, RD

I only bought the C185F a couple of days ago - I'd have thought it'd be the most recent <?>. Or do you mean the update to the repaint?

by **Adamski** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:47 pm

connor wrote:
QUOTE (connor @ Dec 22 2011,7:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The majority of the Orbx Landclass products are designed to give a representation of the actual terrain, whilst making a visually stimulating and economically viable product. I'm not saying they cut corners, they just come at it with a different approach.

Vector Land-Class attempts to "re-define New Zealand in FSX," to make it as accurate as possible with the available features of default fsx. This gives a product that is visually stimulating, not because it was designed with that in mind, but because it is recognizable to those of us who live in NZ, and is accurate to the photo's, video's and memories of those who don't.

I hope this makes sense, and I'm not sounding any more like a blabbering idiot than usual.

Makes perfect sense to me .. and I agree 100%.

More food for thought ... just to show how appalling the default FSX in many parts of NZ actually is ...

by **happytraveller** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:47 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Dec 27 2011,1:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't mean to imply that FTX NZSI is faulty -- just that it isn't the one true NZ which everyone has been hoping for. Orbx have acknowledged that there are some bugs to be fixed, such as the missing towns, but their representation of the South Island is designed with a different set of goals than VLC. Let's face it, how many FTX customers are actually going to visit Murchison in their lifetime? Orbx's SI is designed to be an ideal wilderness for people who have never seen one, and it certainly is nice to look at.

I think that Rob has hit the nail on the head, NZSI is not the one true NZ which everyone has been hoping for. I am very disappointed with it.

smooth landings.

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:55 am

This ORBX is the carpet , put a vacuum cleaner to it , suck out the dust - shake it a bit then place all the bits and pieces ........ ya cant go wrong

by **AndrewJamez** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:19 am

happytraveller wrote:
QUOTE (happytraveller @ Dec 23 2011,12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that Rob has hit the nail on the head, NZSI is not the one true NZ which everyone has been hoping for. I am very disappointed with it.

smooth landings.

Do you have it?

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