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Postby Splitpin » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:21 pm

These dont do justice to the model....Im having to use the lower rez textures (from A2A), but what a beauty. Just have too learn how to really fly it now.





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Postby scaber » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:31 pm

All these shots people are posting of the A2A spitfire is starting to take its toll on me. I'm beginning to get tempted . . .
Nice shots btw.
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Postby Splitpin » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:08 pm

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All these shots people are posting of the A2A spitfire is starting to take its toll on me. I'm beginning to get tempted . . .
Nice shots btw.

Thanks scaber....just get it, this thing will keep you busy for years.
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Postby Olderndirt » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:53 pm

Not a big A2A fan - too many gadgets and I do like my JF Spit but your number three shot is as nice a Spitfire shot as I've seen in a while.
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Postby AndrewJamez » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:14 pm

Not too many gadgets, just realism and imersion, just how a flight sim should be. I actualy prefer the P-47 accusim soundset. Nothin comes close to that P&W R-2800 shaking your bones (i mean ears) winkyy.gif
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Postby Adamski » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:37 pm

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Not too many gadgets, just realism and imersion, just how a flight sim should be. I actualy prefer the P-47 accusim soundset. Nothin comes close to that P&W R-2800 shaking your bones (i mean ears) winkyy.gif

I think this is in response more to olderndirt ... There's a bit of a paradox (above) winkyy.gif

You can't have "realism" - particularly in a high-performance-engine driven fighter *without* all the gadgets - or it just becomes an arcade game. I've often thought the flight models (never mind the engine systems or avionics) in MSFS are often well below par. Few aircraft "fly" like real aircraft.

I've sat in a Spit, but never flown one, so I've no idea, really ... but this A2A Spit is a real corker, believe me. It does also make you appreciate the workload of these early Spit pilots ... in combat.

@Marty. Great shots indeed! Relieved to see you didn't hold out for much longer than me!!! Take a look at the A2A forums - I'm active in some of the support topics ... and there's a great one there about overheating/engine management.

The problem is that we're currently in NZ summer time and, if you have real weather enabled, the outside air temperature can be up to 24c ... pushing it a bit for the early single-radiator Spits. The trick seems to be to get as high as you can (where it's cooler) as soon as you can. I was messing around just doing NZAR-NZWP and rarely went over 4,000ft ... so never really got to cool the engine before landing. Poor old Spit didn't like that at all!!

After a day or two of this Spit, I've found my old fave, the RealAir Spit looking a bit crude.

@scaber. I agree with Marty (for once, laugh.gif!!) ... just get it. Make sure you get the Accusim add-on, though, or it will just be a very pretty plane.

To all others "on the brink" ... try the A2A forums and read what's there. Obviously, there'll be a whole heap of serious "fanboi" stuff there ... but some of the in-depth posts from the developers are amazing. They really have put a lot of effort into this add-on.

Put simply - considering all the add-ons I've had over the years (and other combat sims I've used) this one is a dead-cert *winner*.
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Postby Splitpin » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:17 pm

Adam, they must be paying you more than me.......you should become the PR guy for the developer tongue.gif
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Postby Adamski » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:44 pm

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Adam, they must be paying you more than me.......you should become the PR guy for the developer tongue.gif

Hehe ... well ... I'm known for "being difficult to please" so it's a real treat to be able to praise something once in a while winkyy.gif
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Postby Splitpin » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:46 pm

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Hehe ... well ... I'm known for "being difficult to please" so it's a real treat to be able to praise something once in a while winkyy.gif

You do a good job.....sold it too me dry.gif normally i take months to decide....today, about 3 hours .
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Postby Adamski » Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:52 pm

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You do a good job.....sold it too me dry.gif normally i take months to decide....today, about 3 hours .

Wanna buy a 2nd hand bra??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Postby Splitpin » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:06 pm

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Wanna buy a 2nd hand bra??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is soooooo you....hand me downs rolleyes.gif ....and you want money for it!!.....just eat the damm thing , and lets move on winkyy.gif
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Postby scrubcutter » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:18 pm

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@scaber. I agree with Marty (for once, laugh.gif!!) ... just get it. Make sure you get the Accusim add-on, though, or it will just be a very pretty plane.

To all others "on the brink" ... try the A2A forums and read what's there. Obviously, there'll be a whole heap of serious "fanboi" stuff there ... but some of the in-depth posts from the developers are amazing. They really have put a lot of effort into this add-on.

Put simply - considering all the add-ons I've had over the years (and other combat sims I've used) this one is a dead-cert *winner*.

Yup, "Just Get It" should be the catch phrase. A few things I'm a little disappointed with, such as the model (would have preferred a Mk V or IX), but that was my gripe with most of their models, such as the early P-40 rather than the more powerful P-40N and the P-47 'Superbolt' with the bubbletop. I would have also preferred a Lockheed Constellation to the Strat as a multi-engined Accusim airliner. My personal preference only, at least the B-17 was a good choice. I am only picky as no-one else makes equivalenty detailed models of these iconic aircraft.

The later 1720 HP Merlin 66 (RM 10SM) of the Mk VIII and IV was the equivalent of the Merlin 266 (Packard) which is used in the P-51D, NOT the 1030 HP Merlin II (RM 1S) of the Mk I or the 1150 HP Merlin XII (RM 3S) of the MkII which is what A2A claimed they developed the Accusim Spit as the testbed for. I wonder if they are going to remodel the Merlin to the later specs? I would hate to speculate that they would omit this detail for the Mustang.

These points aside, the Accusim Spit is a superbly designed simulation, and even for non-warbird fans, I believe it is a must-have for every virtual hangar!

I also wish they would devote some time to an Accusim Lancaster thumbup1.gif
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Postby Adamski » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:29 pm

scrubcutter wrote:
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A few things I'm a little disappointed with, such as the model (would have preferred a Mk V or IX)
I also wish they would devote some time to an Accusim Lancaster thumbup1.gif

I'm sure I saw references in the A2A forums to a future MkV ... though I'm not sure about the MkIX. If they do at least a MkV, then I expect they'll model the correct engine. Still, the early Spits are the B.O.B. ones ... I just wish they had two radiators! laugh.gif

If they need the later Merlins anyway - for the Mustang - then extending the existing Spitfire choices shouldn't be to difficult, I'd have thought.

Yes ... by the same token ... a 4-Merlin'd Lancaster shouldn't be that hard either!!! Being as the USA is such a huge market, though, I suspect they think they have the bombers already covered with the B-17.
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Postby chopper_nut » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:30 pm

I dont think I could manage 4 merlins, ones enough! Just took mine out for its second flight. Over an hour of aerobatics just flying around and back to Duxford for a nice landing. What sort of oil temp are you guys getting in the cruise? It seems to sit at about 83-85 at 1800rpm and about 0lb of boost.
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Postby Adamski » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:41 pm

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I dont think I could manage 4 merlins, ones enough! Just took mine out for its second flight. Over an hour of aerobatics just flying around and back to Duxford for a nice landing. What sort of oil temp are you guys getting in the cruise? It seems to sit at about 83-85 at 1800rpm and about 0lb of boost.

You're doing well to get an hour's aerobatics without blowing up! Must be 'cos it's winter in Duxford at the moment! Try it at Ardmore! laugh.gif

I'm finding it's not so much the oil temperature that's the problem ... the radiator/coolant seems far more sensitive.

I'll check my cruise figures next time, but I seem to remember my radiator temp being around 95 with the cooler one notch from fully closed. I did an Ardmore-Wanaka ferry flight and found it settled down well at 20,000ft. Amazingly, I managed to get there on just the top tank .. can this be right? That's a helluva range.

For those long ferry flights, where you just want to watch the Spit travel through the landscape in outside view, I found the default FSX autopilot seems to work (for heading and altitude) - at least if you've filed a flight plan.
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Postby chopper_nut » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:09 pm

Thats interesting, I had the coolant temps way down and they seemed to stay there as I say it was the oil temp that I had issues with. If I opened the throttle up a bit for a loop or something it roared away up to the 90 mark which is quite close to the top of the gauge. Havnt needed any autopilot for it yet. I managed to trim it out and it flew hands off.
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:08 pm

Bloody Great Model , now Marty still no MP !
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Postby Splitpin » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:50 pm

I will, i will....geezz for sick skinny guy your mighty pushy.......but it has too be in something slow...my reflexes are all to hell.......if you sneak up behind me and say boo, I'll end up looping and ....well, it gets messy. dry.gif What about a C-5 formation team thumbup1.gif at Vmo ....lots of flap and about 10km apart.....Im your man laugh.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:00 am

scrubcutter wrote:
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I also wish they would devote some time to an Accusim Lancaster thumbup1.gif

Scrubs , You have the B17 ? Accumsimed that is absoulutlely fan dang diddly tastic
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