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Postby Kelburn » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:38 pm

I'd do the APU, Calculated descent, Dump fuel, Mayday, Announce to passengers, Slow to set speed (depending) Get below 10,000 if decompression

ZKTOM said that they always kick out the doors. What? he says that it'll absorb the impact? I say that is untrue
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Postby scon » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:42 pm

Go through the engine failure checklist :lol:
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Postby Zöltuger » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:05 pm

scon wrote: Go through the engine failure checklist :lol:

spot on :lol:
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Postby Alex » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:08 pm

scon wrote: Go through the engine failure checklist :lol:

Sounds pretty good to me. Safety of the aircraft generally means safety of the passengers, so aircraft should come first. B-)

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Postby Mattnz » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:10 pm

Panic :lol:

Nah, as everyone else has said, go through the checklist :)
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Postby Brennanx » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:20 pm

eject no matter what your in
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Postby G-HEVN » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:29 pm

Why abandon a perfectly good glider?
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Postby HardCorePawn » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:52 pm

kick out the doors? eh?

we have had a discussion about this at the aero club... for the 152! basically you should pop the door ajar just before impact so that if the cabin gets bent the door will not be jammed shut.

However, there is no way you would pop the doors on a heavy... even supposing you could pull against the cabin pressurisation, you would set off the escape slides! They're not usually disarmed until taxi to gate.
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Postby kiwiflyboy » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:17 pm

There are so many different scenarios and different situations and little variables.....

This poll isnt really specific..... what type of A/C? and if your flying for an airline, there is so many S.O.P and AFM stuff you must go thru, you as PIC really has no decisions to make (unless shi* has really hit the fan)
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Postby pois0n » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:22 pm

Brennanx wrote: eject no matter what your in

A helicopter? :D
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Postby HardCorePawn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:10 am

pois0n wrote:
Brennanx wrote: eject no matter what your in

A helicopter? :D

Not as stupid as you might think... they have helo's with ejection systems... some i've seen shoot the pilot out side-ways... others blow the blades off at the hub then shoot the seats up and out...
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Postby Jimmy » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:42 pm

It can be quite dependant on the situation. Start the APU? At 40,000ft? Are we on final approach or just passed V1 on t/o roll? Sometimes the RAM is the better option over the APU, or even your only option.

But always go threw the checklist if the situation allows, then determine the cause of the failure and start considering your options. Once again if the situation allows call the controller stating your problem and any other important information, and what your intentions are. Thats when the controller starts to sweet too, depending on the situation his workload will increase alot also, keep radio transmision short both ways.. Then if practical go threw the inflight restart checklist, and if theres no other option just keep going threw that checklist... If of course you were as bright as the pilots of that A330 over the indian ocean or something you might start cross feeding fuel right outa your aircraft so youd be gliding.. In which case youd extend the RAM and fly your optimum glide speed and head for the nearest suitable airfeild.

Unless of course your glider is flying by ETOPS, then just get the toggs on get ready to go for a swim :lol:

Experiance, good training, comman sense and pursivearance would be most important to deal with such a situation.

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Postby ZK-Brock » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:10 pm

Yip James has prettymuch covered it - it depends heavily on the stage of flight and aircraft type.
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Postby Bluebird » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:23 pm

Kick out the people on plane why not save ya self frist.... :)

Excpet the flight Attendent she can stay if she hot :drool:

At least i will die happy!
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Postby ZKTOM » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:25 pm

Not enough info in the question there kelburn. What aircraft are we talking here? If it is a relatively small one I'd kick the doors just before crashing otherwise no.

I'd do the APU and checklist etc. if there was enough space, otherwise I'd follow instinct.
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Postby Kelburn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:46 pm

Like HardCorePawn said you don't open the doors in a passenger aircraft as they aren't disarmed etc. Plus the fuselage would buckle having the walls around the door compacting against each other leaving no exit.

Sorry we are talking 737 upwards.
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Postby ZKTOM » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:53 pm

In that case no, don't kick the doors out.
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Postby Matthew » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:55 pm

This is what I would do if its a GA aircraft e.g. Piper Tomahawk PA-38 at Timaru:

1. Plan my descent (1500ft and 1000ft areas)

2. Engine Failure Checks:
Fuel
Mixture/Primer
Ignition
Engine Instruments
Partial power

3. Having established that power cannot be regained

Squawk 7700

Radio Call:
MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY :ph43r:
Timaru Traffic
Juliet Hotel Oscar
Overhead the field
Two thousand five hundred feet
Total engine failure
Attempting to land at Timaru

4. Passenger Brief

5. At 1000ft area, Fuel Mixture, and Electrics off. Unlock hatches, but don't open them :ph43r:

6. Then execute a standard glide approach and land the aircraft :)

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Postby flynz » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:06 pm

Simple:

Esc: End Flight.

Problem solved :P
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:27 pm

G-HEVN wrote:Why abandon a perfectly good glider?

1986 CPAir 767 ..... the Gilmbii Glider .. :) run otta fuel , YIP ! all survived , broke nose gear and messed a little skin .

Other than that try all other previous sujestions , HAPPY LANDINGS :lol:
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