$100 NZ Scenery, What would you recommend?

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Postby kiwibarguy » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:35 am

Dear Aunty, I am confused and looking for answers.

I will spend $100 dollars on Scenery for Christmas, i have 3 kids so opportunities to spend this kind of money come but twice a year, Birthday and Christmas.

I am tiring of the desert and need to get a bigger scenery area for as much buck as i can.

I am running on FSX.

At the moment i have downloaded a freeware STRM which covers NZ, Aussie and Indonesia. Im not sure if there are payware STRMs but i am just looking for anything to get rid of the Sahara! Sceneries or whatever!

I know of 'real scenery' and others but could you recommend a particular region that always draws you back. EX: Tauranga..

Yours confused and looking for guidance.

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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:40 am

The RealNZ sceneries are excellent quality, and definately worth every dollar - I'd look at getting a few of those, especially some of the more recent ones. Particularly Wellington and Rotorua for me, but that is probably because they are the only ones I own. tongue.gif

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Postby Mattnz » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:33 pm

Definately the RealNZ scenery. I have the whole lot, and they're absolutely fantastic; look no further!

I think most of them have now been patched for FSX, and my favourite two are Wellington, and Marlborough - makes for a great flight across the Cook Straight winkyy.gif
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Postby Charl » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:38 pm

Buy a used copy of FS2004 ACOF on Trade Me: $50?
Sell your copy of FSX on Trade Me: $30?
Buy RealNZ FS2004 collection:$79
Total: $99
Enjoy 1,000's of free addons, sceneries, aircraft and utilities not available for FSX, that will actually run on your computer as advertised.

Next year, make the sum again.
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Postby toprob » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:49 pm

Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Nov 23 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Buy a used copy of FS2004 ACOF on Trade Me: $50?


Works for me -- can't fault your math:)
However you can get a NEW FS2004 for $49.95, delivered free, from the Gameplanet Store.
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Postby creator2003 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:55 pm

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Postby kiwibarguy » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:12 pm

I see what everyone is saying. It has taken me a long time to get my computer, i bought it this year, quite a little beasty apart from my 7600 graphics card could be better.

I raced into the store just asking for the latest version of flight sim as i had no real connection to what everyone else was doing, not belonging to a fabulous group such as this.

Then i soon found out from 'flight sim' and 'avsim' that the choices available for 2004 way outweighed fsx.

I don't think i want to sell my fsx as maybe it is invested money for the future but i do see that everyone else is pretty much on the same boat. Please write in if you feel otherwise about 2004 being the better choice (if you dare tongue.gif ) i wouldn't want anyone to get black listed! laugh.gif

So maybe i should buy 2004 and get Welly and Marlborough from real sceneries as well. Then i can download Nelson freeware from Snowman and all the other airports.

I do have one more question.

Is there a limit to the amount of times you can install microsoft flight sim into your computer?
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Postby ZK-Brock » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:19 pm

I think there's a limit on FSX, but no limit on FS9.
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Postby Timmo » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:40 pm

Technically they are the same in terms of licensing as far as im aware: One license per copy....its just that FS9 looks for the CD in the drive as its way of enforcing the single license (which can be circumvented by using a NoCD crack....if you are that way inclined). FSX relies on an online activation which is harder to crack.

In terms of getting rid of the 'desert' in FSX: For the mean time, download the RedBaron Fs9 landclass files and use them in FSX: These are about as good as it will get using raster methods and default textures. Ive got vector landclass files in the pipeline which offer greater spatial accuracy than raster based files....both are hampered somewhat by the very brown textures for winter however.
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Postby AlisterC » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:43 pm

Load up default NZ in FS9 and load up default NZ in FSX, I know what I'd rather have... dry.gif
Far too much FSX bashing going on in this forum... It's not NZFS9.org .........
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Postby Q300 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:03 pm

How is Real NZ Wellington on the FPS? Im gona get all 5 for Christmas.
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Postby ardypilot » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:50 pm

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How is Real NZ Wellington on the FPS? Im gona get all 5 for Christmas.[/quote]
Pretty good for me, Robin built with with multi levels of detail, so you can tone down your scenery slider untill it works for you.

As for FS9 vs FSX, I'd say if you want a lot of variety and a fun simming experience over the holidays, buy FS9. If you want a better default enviroment with better addons being released in the future, stick with FSX, but you may have to wait before it starts getting as many addons get developed and released.
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Postby G-HEVN » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:30 pm

This forum is very biased towards FS9 - unfairly so in my opinion, and you will certainly find other places with a more fair-minded open attitude. It's primarily the vocal intransigence of a few, and the refusal by some developers to go the extra 50 metres and make their sceneries FSX compatible. Fact is FSX is out there; it's the future; it isn't going away. Telling people to go sell their FSX and buy FS9 is neither helpful nor appropriate. Both sims have their good and bad points; neither is perfect.

RealNZ is as good on FSX as it is on FS9, and some sceneries are better - Marlborough uses 2.5m photos in FSX (correct me if I'm wrong, Robin): 4 times the resolution of FS9. In fact, everywhere I see them, FS9 5m photo textures stand out as being crude and blurry in comparison to FSX.

Take a look at the new freeware Victoria+ for FSX by Jon patch and Holger Sandmann, recently posted on Avsim and other places. And ask yourself: Would I trade this kind of quality for the crudeness of FS9? All it takes is some people with vision to go out and make these impressive sceneries, and not just stand around sniping on the sidelines.


Regarding the question of number of installs. the FSX activation system will allow a certain number of installs in a certain time (neither value being clearly defined), beyond which you will need to phone a MS freephone number and get a new code. I've never heard of anyone not getting the new code from MS.
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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:36 pm

I believe the above post by Charl was made as joke. Charl has been a staunch campaigner to try and get us to crack down on people who are doing exactly what G-HEVN has said in his post above, and I'm sure he wouldn't want to be seen to be criticising FSX unfairly.

I for one know that there is very limited life left in FS9, and some of us are trying harder to change the stereotype of this forum as one where FSX-people shouldn't visit. Of course, it'll take a group effort to do, but it will definately be worth it.

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Postby G-HEVN » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:52 pm

Maybe so (although there was no smiley to suggest that winkyy.gif), but the following posts certainly read like a campaign trail, and if I were new here and of fragile disposition, I'd be put off...
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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:05 pm

That is true. But we have very limited options available to us (moderation team) to fairly keep neutral (aside from mind control of course rolleyes.gif). We do want to keep things fair, but it would be a very fine line between discouraging, defamatory remarks, and someone's honest opinion about FSX (what does that say about some members I suppose winkyy.gif ).

Ideas on some realistic things we could do to 'neutralise' discussions, without taking away fun and the odd joke here and there? smile.gif

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PS: Sorry for hijacking your thread a bit Kiwibarguy! icon_redface.gif
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Postby kiwibarguy » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:36 pm

Dear Aunty, I've know what to do with my money.

I've decided to find a used t.v cardboard box and a pair of swimming goggles. I will sit inside it with a gladwrap tube and make 'BRRRRRRRing' noises.
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Postby G-HEVN » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:00 am

I was at the RAF museum in Hendon last week, where they have an old WWII Link Trainer. It's tin and plywood, but otherwise not much different to that! And the scenery is as good as your imagination... thumbup1.gif
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Postby FunkymonkeyNZ » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:35 am

Ill tell ya what some of you need for X-MAS you lot....A skirt!!! Gee-Wizz i've never seen such ladys scwabble over which sim is better!!! LoL, im very one sided when it comes to which sim is better but i dont hammer other people for expressing there thoughts, ok so i tried FSX and cried but "Hey" thats just me! laugh.gif so i can gurante glassons will be having a pre sale before x-mas, can pick up some nice dresses then hahahaha (jokes fullers ok) dont want to see grown men cry tongue.gif
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Postby creator2003 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:16 am

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I for one know that there is very limited life left in FS9, and some of us are trying harder to change the stereotype of this forum as one where FSX-people shouldn't visit. Of course, it'll take a group effort to do, but it will definately be worth it.[/quote]

i take it you mite be pointing the finger at some ,you cant change ppls minds to suit the way you want the forums to go ..its not your forum to do so ..
so what? ppls have a opinion about the topic ..cant stop that ether ..
I dont remember the govt dropping in and making it political campaign at all and nobody has moved anyone on because of there opinion ..
As you know arnz moved on aswell as others and made there own fsx based website ,FSX only ,this started the split around fsx and fs9 in the forums .

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It's primarily the vocal intransigence of a few, and the refusal by some developers to go the extra 50 metres and make their sceneries FSX compatible[/quote]

I had to look up this word " intransigence""refusing to agree or compromise; uncompromising; inflexible.or a person who refuses to agree or compromise, as in politics,,
i must fit into this catagory ,why because i refuse to be pushed forward or out because i have my own opinions about things ,
tell me why would i compromised about anything if i dont want to go that way ??


you FSXer out there dont agree with fs9 ers sticking to there ways and think its the bees knees , that is shown above
so why is it some of us hardcore fs9 get made out to be terroist within the forum because we still think theres life left fs9

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the refusal by some developers to go the extra 50 metres and make their sceneries FSX compatible.[/quote]

us developers that arent making it fsx compatible arent just doing it out of hate ,,maybe we just dont wont to learn the extra needed to make it that way as we dont get payed in anyway to supply you guys with it and the extra hours /days /months involed in changing the whole way we design for fs9 is not worth it at the moment as we mite not even use fsx.
We know you guys would love it all to work that way and i would love all my work to just work but it doesnt ,not without learning a whole heap more.
2004 scenerys ,thats where im upto in my learning nothing else to it .

i had a good flight lastnight M/P with kiwibarguy fsx & fs9 together WOW !! ,he asked me what i thought about this topic ,i didnt tell him to sell up , i said if i remember right, they have there up side and down ,yes i told him that it could be a good idea to get himself a copy ,why not ??

this is the thing any fsx er could just join in on a fs9 flight like we have been doing since the sim came out ,but do they ,no not much at all the sims are split there ,even though we could all just sim away in whatever sim we want to look at ..

there is more than just a few around that make it harder to have a big happy family and trying to change the way ppls say and do things around here is not going to pull us all together
As far as i remember this is a flightsimulator site fsx fs9 and all the others ,there are plenty of topics in the forum for all users ,and we all comment on both ,in good and bad ways
this is what makes this forum honest and a place to see dramas unfold, at lest you hear what is what and are in no Delusion that one is bettter than the other like other places that have a agenda to promote the lastest and greatest payware addons or tell you no matter what your pc will handle it and so on ..

now in saying all this im one that will be buying FSX again ,why ?? because you guys out there want scenery to be compatible , is this costing you money "NO" so next time you think that we all have it in for you take note ,im buying it for you not for me ,im going to be spending another 100hrs at lest learning something you can not or dont want too

and dont forget that when you were flying fs9 and putting in addons to fsx it was the designs that had already traveled 50.000 miles to make your sim better ..


this is opinions and my point of view on things said above,, it doesnt contain any discouraging, defamatory remarks, but does include someone's honest opinion about FSX and fs9 (what does that say about this member I suppose unsure.gif ) laugh.gif
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