Airline Pilot?

[benwynn]

Depending on the Airline and your Experience you might get $300K. Fedex Pilots, the highest payed pilots in the world, get over $450K, But have tonnes of experience.

[cowpatz]

Kelburn do not be too concerned about which models you do or dont want to fly. Your views change as your flying progresses and lifestyle choices become more of a consideration than aircraft types. The main priority for you is to get your your qualifications and experience as soon as you can. The younger the better. I am not sure what age you are but I would be looking at a student loan to get through to CPL and and if possible a multi eng instrument rating. I believe that Ardmore flying school have a relatively streamlined process for this. Try and do your training with an organisation that can help get you placed in employment or at least a good track record of it. The more you spend money with one organisation the more pressure you can apply to them for a job. There is an issue at the moment with NZ third level airlines loosing pilots to overseas airlines such as Emirates and Etihad etc so there will be a resultant lowering of their entry experience requirements. Air NZ has slowed at the moment but there should be another recruitment drive before the arrival of the 787 and 777-300's. The changes to the retirement age put a halt to promotions and new hires for a while but the effects of this should start to ease from now on.
You may need to consider a C cat instructors rating to assist with that first job and to increase your hours quickly. It is also possible to get discounted aircraft hireage rates that might make an instrument rating cheaper. Once this is out of the way start tackling your ATPL subjects and perhaps the Basic gas turbine rating.
Cheers
Steve

[Kelburn]

To fly a jet what ratings do you need (e.g Night, IFR etc.)?

[benwynn]

Everything....Becuase to progress to CPL etc, you would need the ratings then eventually you would have everything..

[cowpatz]

Experience essentially. You need a turbine rating as well as the aircraft type rating. To fly as pilot in command you will need an ATPL. Most employers will provide the turbine rating as part of the training and this usually comes as part of a turbo prop rating. I had no turbine experience when I stated with the airline and the required training covered this.

[Kelburn]

So is a BGT what you need to fly Turboprops and Jets?

[cowpatz]

Correct.

[Kelburn]

Huh, I thought there was more than a basic Gas Turbine rating. Interesting...

[ZK-Brock]

Well also a type rating, which would be pretty expensive on most turbines..

[Kelburn]

true.

Do the airlines get you the type ratings or do you have to get them yourself?

[benwynn]

It depends, but 9/10, the airline will provide at your Expense.

[A185F]

Genrally all low cost airlines you will have to pay for a type rating yourself i.e pac blue, jetstar, freedom and the likes. And genrally all major non low cost airlines like AirNZ cathay emirates etc will provide and pay for you

[cowpatz]

It all follows the law of supply and demand. The greater the supply and less the demand the more you will have to pay. Even low cost operators will pay for your type rating if that is what is required to secure pilots when that resource is scarce.
Be under no illusion that all that is required to fly a turbine is a Basic gas turbine rating. You will require a full aircraft type rating unless you intend to fly something like a Cessna Caravan or a Cresco whereby a more conventional type conversion will apply.

[Q300]

QUOTE (Kelburn @ Dec 20 2007, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

true.

Do the airlines get you the type ratings or do you have to get them yourself?

Eagle Airways offer it for free.

[ZK-Brock]

I was reading on Pprune how pilots are now encouraging other pilots to have the airlines pay for their ratings only, because pilots can now be more selective about who they work for due to the pilot shortage.

Have a read through Grow Balls We Must!

[Q300]

I reacon the airline should pay for the type ratings, Getting all your licences already costs heaps then having to pay even more to get a type rating. No wonder theres a pilot shortage the only perkes to the job is flying a plane for a living if you even make money trying to pay back for all the training on a regional pilots wage. Im still planing on being a pilot but how I approch it is still undicied wether I go through the Airforce or a flying school.

Sam

[benwynn]

Well I guess it depends. I agree for paying for a 737 Type, but anything less like Dash 8 or whatever should be funded by the airline

[Q300]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Dec 21 2007, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well I guess it depends. I agree for paying for a 737 Type, but anything less like Dash 8 or whatever should be funded by the airline

Yea and getting your 737 type rating is going to take longer and is a bigger 'couse' so the pilots should pay for that, My old man had to pay about a $3,500 deposit on getting his type rating and apon doing that he recived all manuals and what not.

[benwynn]

But Basically what I mean is- Once you get you Multi Engine, Gas Turbine etc you can really already fly a Beech 1900 fairly easily. But, as with a 737, you dont just pop down to the local flying school and jump in a 737 lol.

[Q300]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Dec 21 2007, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But Basically what I mean is- Once you get you Multi Engine, Gas Turbine etc you can really already fly a Beech 1900 fairly easily. But, as with a 737, you dont just pop down to the local flying school and jump in a 737 lol.

Haha yea
To get your 737 TR you have to do 10hrs in both the right and left seat