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by **victor_alpha_charlie** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:18 pm

K5054NZ wrote:
QUOTE (K5054NZ @ Feb 16 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, definitely not going to bother. I'd rather go to Wanaka. Cars aren't really my thing anyway, and from the start I was weary of this show. Too right about their claim being the biggest - the only reason they'd be the biggest wings and WHEELS show is likely due to (correct me if I'm wrong) it's the only one this year?

Nope, there's Wanaka this year. Wanaka does have the wheels part, with old trucks/tractors/cars etc on display.

by **spongebob206** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:20 pm

Thought is was the 8-9 feb not march.
Lucky this dumb bugger never headed to NZHN aye.

Thanks.

by **ZK-MAT** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:10 am

http://www.airshow.co.nz/ is the website.

I was going to go, but I was put off by the website and how they are selling tickets. You can only get tickets on line, via Paypal, which adds $5 to the ticket price. In my opinion it's madness not having gate sales and misleading advertising as the actual ticket prices are not what they advertise.

They have allocated different coloured areas according to where you are in relation to the runway, the lower price tickets (eg $40 for adult and kids) are sold out on the Saturday and the other prices (like for the gold area, which is black on the plan) are bloody pricey.

Finally, news that they haven't received resource consent (or even applied for it according to the Waipa District Council) so there could be no static displays concerns me that the organisers don't really know how to 'organise'.

NZ Herald Link

by **spongebob206** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:13 am

ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Feb 17 2008, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.airshow.co.nz/ is the website.

I was going to go, but I was put off by the website and how they are selling tickets. You can only get tickets on line, via Paypal, which adds $5 to the ticket price. In my opinion it's madness not having gate sales and misleading advertising as the actual ticket prices are not what they advertise.

They have allocated different coloured areas according to where you are in relation to the runway, the lower price tickets (eg $40 for adult and kids) are sold out on the Saturday and the other prices (like for the gold area, which is black on the plan) are bloody pricey.

Finally, news that they haven't received resource consent (or even applied for it according to the Waipa District Council) so there could be no static displays concerns me that the organisers don't really know how to 'organise'.

NZ Herald Link

I Agree,

How can you organise such a big event and not complete the basics first?

What a scam with the tickets, is paypal a sponsor?

by **twinstarda42** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:55 am

ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Feb 17 2008, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.airshow.co.nz/ is the website.

I was going to go, but I was put off by the website and how they are selling tickets. You can only get tickets on line, via Paypal, which adds $5 to the ticket price. In my opinion it's madness not having gate sales and misleading advertising as the actual ticket prices are not what they advertise.

They have allocated different coloured areas according to where you are in relation to the runway, the lower price tickets (eg $40 for adult and kids) are sold out on the Saturday and the other prices (like for the gold area, which is black on the plan) are bloody pricey.

Finally, news that they haven't received resource consent (or even applied for it according to the Waipa District Council) so there could be no static displays concerns me that the organisers don't really know how to 'organise'.

NZ Herald Link

Probably half of the problem here also a myriad of other fees thrown at the I.e seller:

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$5 is cheap compared to the likes of Ticketek.

Plenty of static display of aircraft at most airfields when they are not in use - I.e a static display could be a called a parked aircraft at an airport.

by **ZK-MAT** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:03 am

Maybe they should include the $5 in their pricing on the web page. It's not the amount they add that's the issue but the fact that they advertise the price and there is a hidden extra. Especially as there is no other way to get the tickets. (ref The Fair Trading Act 1986 misleading and deceptive conduct)

As I understand they can have static displays, just not sell food, merchandise or do non-airport activities like car racing. My guess is they will pull a favour with the Council and it will go as planned but it doesn't give off a good impression.

All the best to the organisers and I'm sure those who attend will have a good time.

by **twinstarda42** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:08 am

ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Feb 17 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe they should include the $5 in their pricing on the web page. It's not the amount they add that's the issue but the fact that they advertise the price and there is a hidden extra. Especially as there is no other way to get the tickets. (ref The Fair Trading Act 1986 misleading and deceptive conduct)

As I understand they can have static displays, just not sell food, merchandise or do non-airport activities like car racing. My guess is they will pull a favour with the Council and it will go as planned but it doesn't give off a good impression.

All the best to the organisers and I'm sure those who attend will have a good time.

I apologize you are correct - they all do it to makes it sound better pricing wise , gotcha on the food stalls etc , would not be suprised re: council Thanks for that and cheers

by **K5054NZ** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:54 pm

Yeah, I realise Wanaka is on this year! I meant shows with a really emphasised wings and wheels theme, like those run at Wigram several years ago. If I'd had any ludicrous idea of Wanaka not going ahead I'd have said so loooooooong ago!!! Hence me saying "I'd rather go to Wanaka".

THE BLUE ANGELS ARE NOT COMING!!!!!!!! :S The poor lad was misinformed. The jet team are, I believe, the "Patriots" flying L-39s. But apparently their website says nothing about any NZ shows this year.....

by **Brennanx** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:01 pm

im going to the hamilton one then wanaka

by **twinstarda42** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:13 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Feb 15 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For those planning on going there looks to be some trouble ahead ,i got my ticket last week for the sat show ,i hope it isn't canceled
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikatotimes/4401289a6579.html

Apparently their were or are alternatives to buy tickets:
Ticketmaster here: http://www.ticketmaster.co.nz/event/240040...p;minorcatid=54

and By Phone.

by **squirrel350** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:03 pm

Im getting ready to pick up my pitch fork and flaming torch and organising a lynch mob to sort this guy out if it doesnt go ahead lol theres going to be a lot of pissed people.

SQ350

by **K5054NZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:38 pm

Hey guys....this "airshow" just keeps getting better and better

!!!

Dave Homewood, site operator of Wings Over Cambridge, has been in touch with the US-based "Patriots" L-39 Albatros team, and they ARE NOT COMING!

Added in the amount of other non-attending aircraft in their brochure (Mikael Carlson's Bleriot, the now-Temora Aviation Museum Spitfire TB863 etc etc) one must be fairly sceptical of this event...

by **creator2003** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:56 pm

Oh true well lets warm up the torches then as this really is starting to look like abit of a scam ,
where has it actually been said they where coming anyway? , just said top US aero team didnt it ?
i think ill just have low hopes and wait to see what happens ....

by **twinstarda42** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:09 pm

K5054NZ wrote:
QUOTE (K5054NZ @ Feb 21 2008, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey guys....this "airshow" just keeps getting better and better !!!

Dave Homewood, site operator of Wings Over Cambridge, has been in touch with the US-based "Patriots" L-39 Albatros team, and they ARE NOT COMING!

Added in the amount of other non-attending aircraft in their brochure (Mikael Carlson's Bleriot, the now-Temora Aviation Museum Spitfire TB863 etc etc) one must be fairly sceptical of this event...

well whereas who ever is in charge of the organisation for the show has been extremely vague, the patriots were never billed as coming the term top US jet aerobatic team has only ever been used some individuals came to conclusion that - that who was coming, spitfire wise was billed only as spitfire from australia, so as at present no one other than the organiser actually knows who or what is actually coming apart from the c-17, RNZAF and NZ warbirds, and max clears b22 microlight.

if it goes ahead It will either be a really great show or it will suck badly or may be somewhere in between.

by **K5054NZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:47 pm

My apologies re the Patriots comment - I was confused by the fact that the event brochure had L-39s and that the Patriots are the sole L-39 team in the US.

by **twinstarda42** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:16 pm

K5054NZ wrote:
QUOTE (K5054NZ @ Feb 21 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My apologies re the Patriots comment - I was confused by the fact that the event brochure had L-39s and that the Patriots are the sole L-39 team in the US.

their also the Hoppers(formation team) but if you read around on rnzafproboard the Brochure pics have very little to do with what is actually on offer or coming.

by **K5054NZ** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:22 pm

twinstarda42 wrote:
QUOTE (twinstarda42 @ Feb 21 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
their also the Hoppers(formation team) but if you read around on rnzafproboard the Brochure pics have very little to do with what is actually on offer or coming.

Very true...I for one was very happy to see the Bleriot would be there! And TB863.

by **creator2003** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:16 pm

QUOTE

Less than two weeks before the Wings and Wheels over Waikato air show is due to take flight, the resource consent process has stalled, a key performer has not been paid, some people have not received their tickets and the event organiser has not returned calls. Michael Cummings reports.

Ticket holders, sponsors and investors stand to lose millions of dollars if an air show to be held at Hamilton Airport on March 7-9 fails to get off the ground.

Investigations by the Waikato Times have uncovered a range of obstacles Air Show New Zealand organiser Ken Ross has to overcome, including a resource consent application that still cannot be processed because not all affected parties have given their approval.

As concerns about the event's prospects grow, a number of people involved in the show have contacted the Times complaining they cannot get hold of Mr Ross to finalise details. He has not returned Waikato Times calls this week.

Ticket holders and investors are worried they will not get their money back if the event doesn't happen. Organisers say that at least $1.15 million worth of tickets have been sold. And hundreds of thousands of dollars have been invested by exhibitors and sponsors.

Advertisements for the event have promised a classic car show of up to 3000 vehicles, a "great outdoors expo", stalls, rides, and food.

It is billed as the "largest air show event in New Zealand".

But the Commerce Commission confirmed this week it had received complaints about Wings and Wheels over Waikato and had launched an investigation.

The New Zealand Warbirds Association, one of the main performers scheduled to appear at the show, has not been paid. Association vice-president Peter Houghton said they were prepared to fly at the event but "we won't turn up unless we get paid in advance".

Murray Johnson, who owns a spa pool business in Auckland, had paid $500 for an exhibition lot but there is no water or electricity available and he wants to pull out.

Mr Johnson said when he signed up last September, Mr Ross told him he would be refunded if he was unable to attend.

But Mr Johnson said he has been trying to contact Mr Ross for about a month.

"I feel sorry for him if it's fallen over and he's made a pig's ear of it, but he needs to front up," Mr Johnson said.

He also paid $1280 for four tickets in November that still had not arrived.

"I would like to talk to the man (Mr Ross). I will get my money back. It may take a thousand years but I will get it back."

Another exhibitor, who asked not to be named, said she had paid the show's organisers $600 for advertising and feared she would lose her money if the event didn't go ahead.

The terms and conditions of her contract state: "Should the Event Company postpone or cancel the event, no refund or compensation will be entered into."

Meanwhile, Mr Ross seems no closer to obtaining resource consent from the Waipa District Council. Consent is not required for the airshow itself because it is a permitted activity at the airport, but it is needed for all the other planned activities.

Transit NZ is one of the affected parties which must give written approval before the council can process the consent application but it can't get hold of Mr Ross for the documents it needs to sign off on.

A spokeswoman for Transit said it supported the show's traffic management plan "in principle", but it needed insurance documents and an enforcement agreement from police before it could give its support formally.

If the show does not go ahead as planned, a condition of ticket sales could see organisers keep punters' money.

Wings and Wheels of Waikato's website, www.airshow.co.nz, states: "There is no refund or exchange and no obligation is assumed by the air show organisers, should local district council resource consent be declined or revoked."[/quote]
http://stuff.co.nz/waikatotimes/4411693a6004.html

so let the hunt begin , i want to find this bloody guy ken ross
anyone know who he is in the world of avaition ??
i hope he gets whats coming for him .. plus my $55 worth

FS-Creations.OrG

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