Qantas Yet Again

[benwynn]

From the Sydney Morning Herald..It just keeps getting worse, but atleast its not cr@p like the ZQN incident.

SMH

QUOTE

A Qantas 767 has been forced to turn around and make an emergency landing at Sydney Airport due to a hydraulic leak, the airline says.

The international flight bound for Manila took off at 1.20pm and landed back at Sydney Airport about 3pm after air traffic controllers gave the pilot priority clearance to land.[/quote]

[Alex]

Wasn't there also something about a Qantas aircraft making a similar landing when the landing gear doors wouldn't close?

Alex

[benwynn]

Earlier in the Week, a Melboune Bound 767 Departed ADL and yes, the Nose gear door wouldnt close. So I suppose yes its very similar. What made me laugh me head off, was that the passengers described the speed break as a very loud noise, as part of the wing started to tare. Pathetic to say the least..

[Peppermint]

Big deal, hydraulic leaks, gear doors not closing....Happens every day around the world. The media must be pretty bored to report on things like this. I reckon if the media reported little niggle that an airline has, news reports would go on for hours, and people would be scared out of air travel.

What I can't believe, is that the media makes air travel out to be very unsafe. If it was that unsafe, it wouldn't be around, besides...there's a better chance of people dying from an everyday car crash. Where's all the reports on that?

[hamstickZKFLT]

QUOTE (Peppermint @ Aug 2 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Big deal, hydraulic leaks, gear doors not closing....Happens every day around the world. The media must be pretty bored to report on things like this. I reckon if the media reported little niggle that an airline has, news reports would go on for hours, and people would be scared out of air travel.

What I can't believe, is that the media makes air travel out to be very unsafe. If it was that unsafe, it wouldn't be around, besides...there's a better chance of people dying from an everyday car crash. Where's all the reports on that?

Oh Yea, But as I recall Anthony saying: "It's not he medias job to present any actual, accurate news but to spice things up so they sound 'cooler'"

[benwynn]

QUOTE (Peppermint @ Aug 2 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What I can't believe, is that the media makes air travel out to be very unsafe. If it was that unsafe, it wouldn't be around, besides...there's a better chance of people dying from an everyday car crash. Where's all the reports on that?

Because its Air Travel!! Its supposed to be the safest form of air travel. Imagine if all 3 of these problems has resulted in crashes with all fatalities. Thats close to 1000 people dead in the span of a few weeks...

[victor_alpha_charlie]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Aug 2 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Because its Air Travel!! Its supposed to be the safest form of air travel. Imagine if all 3 of these problems has resulted in crashes with all fatalities. Thats close to 1000 people dead in the span of a few weeks...

But that's what he's saying- these problems won't result in fatalities, or possibly even injuries. The media is making it sound like they are actually incredibly dangerous, when they're not really (except maybe the decompression...).

[Peppermint]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Aug 2 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Because its Air Travel!! Its supposed to be the safest form of air travel. Imagine if all 3 of these problems has resulted in crashes with all fatalities. Thats close to 1000 people dead in the span of a few weeks...

If they want to report on people dying, why don't they report on the thousands that die daily from starvation....

[benwynn]

Well in that case, the only thing I could counter is, thats the media

Its probably hard for us hard core flying fans, as we dont really care or see it as a problem (Well I certainly dont) But the general flying public, especially somebody that is scared of flying would really be thinking, Do I really need to fly?

[Peppermint]

I guess so. I'd be first in line to say that I'm not the greatest of fliers, frankly...I hate it when I'm not in control of a machine, call it trust issues if you want. In all honesty, I'd rather be up in the cockpit with alarms going off and everything, than being in a passenger cabin not knowing what was going on. It would at least relax me a little more, knowing what was going on.

[Daniel]

Can someone ground Qantas
Even thought they have never lost an aircraft they have certainly had alot of incidents
Can Jetconnect count as Qantas? Cause they certainly have a few tech problems.

[Peppermint]

HAH! What a surprise, it was just on the news...what has an A330 got to do with a 767? The media...hah!

[benwynn]

2 Engines??

[Anthony]

A330 and 767 have similar jobs I guess, plus they both have wings and engines and tails and are both aircraft.
Completely different in most ways, but that's the media.

But seriously, Qantas doesn't seem to be having a very good run lately.
Geoff Dixon is on the way out though, but has been replaced with someone quite similar apparently.
Maybe things will change, we'll see.

[benwynn]

Yeah, the Jetstar CEO is the new QF CEO. Expect to see qantas only fly premium routes, and leave nearly all asian routes to Jetstar...

[Daniel]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Aug 3 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah, the Jetstar CEO is the new QF CEO. Expect to see qantas only fly premium routes, and leave nearly all asian routes to Jetstar...

It will be interesting to see what happens and what routes are switched over.
I wonder whether they will use Jetstar to NZ any time soon.

[Anthony]

QUOTE (benwynn @ Aug 3 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah, the Jetstar CEO is the new QF CEO. Expect to see qantas only fly premium routes, and leave nearly all asian routes to Jetstar...

Yip that's what I imagine will happen.
A combination of Jetstar's lower operating cost and the current feelings toward the Qantas brand will bring this about.
The Kangaroo route will still be Qantas, but I expect operations from places like CNS or OOL to become Jetstar flights - which is already happening.

[Peppermint]

QUOTE (Daniel @ Aug 4 2008, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It will be interesting to see what happens and what routes are switched over.
I wonder whether they will use Jetstar to NZ any time soon.

Jetstar already comes to NZ, I've seen their A320s coming to Christchurch a lot. Not lately though, but I haven't actually been looking.

[victor_alpha_charlie]

Yeah Jetstar fly international to CHC with A320s.

[Daniel]

QUOTE (Peppermint @ Aug 4 2008, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Jetstar already comes to NZ, I've seen their A320s coming to Christchurch a lot. Not lately though, but I haven't actually been looking.

Yip I know that I was meaning to write that (but didn't).
I mean whether they will bring it into WLG or AKL or ZQN.