Yet Another Trivia Quiz

[Charl]

Yup Paul, we read the same literature.
Graham imported 40 I think, so there would be another hull loss somewhere...
I also would've thought there are more than 5 in NZ, but we are probably seeing Yaks and confusing the issue.

Over to you Paul!

[Naki]

Okay - name the Mark number of each of the following Spitfires that have or are resident in NZ (most of them are the same Mark):

The Auckland Museum Spitfire
The Spitfire under restoration by Brendon Deere in Feilding
The RNZAF museum Spitfire
The Griffon powered Spitfire owned by Tim Wallis that he crashed and is currently under restoration in Auckland
Tim's Spitfire that was sold to Temora
The Subritzky Spitty thats for sale

[waka172rg]

QUOTE (Naki @ Sep 5 2008, 10:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Okay - name the Mark number of each of the following Spitfires that have or are resident in NZ (most of them are the same Mark):

The Auckland Museum Spitfire......... Mk.XIVe
The Spitfire under restoration by Brendon Deere in Feilding.....Mk IXc
The RNZAF museum Spitfire....Mk.XVIe
The Griffon powered Spitfire owned by Tim Wallis that he crashed and is currently under restoration in Auckland.........Mk XVI
Tim's Spitfire that was sold to Temora......Mk XVI
The Subritzky Spitty thats for sale.....Mk XVIE

[Naki]

You are almost there Waka172rg but you have two Spitfires mixed up.

[Naki]

bump! Any ideas anyone or I'll give it to Waka for been the closest

[waka172rg]

i tried to look for fault but cant find it that's the best I've got sorry

[Njbb1995]

Ok here goes
Auckland Museum------Spitfire Mark XVI
Brendon Deere------Spitfire Mark IX
The RNZAF Museum------Spitfire Mk XVIE
Tim Wallis------Mk.XIV
Temora-----Mk.XVIe
The Beijing one -----Mk XVI

[Naki]

Yes correct njbb1995 & a bonus point for the destination of the Subritzky spitty! - your turn

Waka had two marks mixed around otherwise it was close.

[Njbb1995]

Cool thanks I will pick a better question this time!!

No. 485(NZ) Squadron was a New Zealand Spitfire squadron of the Royal Air Force during World War II. It was the second New Zealand squadron to be formed in the European theatre, (after No. 75 Squadron RAF), and the first to be formed pursuant to Article XV of the "Riverdale Agreement".
How many missions (sorties) did they fly and how many Enemy aircraft got destroyed?

Good Luck
Nick

[Njbb1995]

BUMP: Anyone?

[deaneb]

485 Squadron flew 9,997 sorties. The unit claimed 63 enemy aircraft destroyed.

Deane

[Njbb1995]

Correct! Your up Deane!!!

[deaneb]

Which aircraft type, of which there are still types flying in NZ, featured an ash tray above the panel ?
Pre-flight checks included emptying the ash tray before aerobatic flight.

Deane

[waka172rg]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Sep 23 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Which aircraft type, of which there are still types flying in NZ, featured an ash tray above the panel ?
Pre-flight checks included emptying the ash tray before aerobatic flight.

Deane

is it the piper Cherokee 140 deane?

[Charl]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Sep 23 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Which aircraft type, of which there are still types flying in NZ, featured an ash tray above the panel ?
Pre-flight checks included emptying the ash tray before aerobatic flight.Deane

[Njbb1995]

x2

[deaneb]

No its not - I don't think Mr Piper intended his planes to be aerobatic !!

[waka172rg]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Sep 23 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Which aircraft type, of which there are still types flying in NZ, featured an ash tray above the panel ?
Pre-flight checks included emptying the ash tray before aerobatic flight.

Deane

haha x3 didn't RTFQ

[waka172rg]

well try this one AESL Airtourer

The AESL Airtourer is an all metal light low wing monoplane touring aircraft developed in Australia and manufactured in New Zealand. It was the winning design in a competition organised by Australia's Royal Aero Club in the early 1950’s. A wooden prototype, the Henry Millicer designed Airtourer was constructed by a small group of enthusiasts in the Melbourne suburb of Williamstown during the late 1950’s. This prototype, registered VH-FMM (also well known as Foxtrot Mickey Mouse in Australian aviation history) was first flown 10 April The prototype was demonstrated to aero clubs and flying schools where significant interest was shown as a Tiger Moth or Chipmunk replacement. After trial flights over Melbourne and then to the Latrobe Airfield development continued to the all metal version. The all metal prototype to production standard (VH-MVA) followed on 12 December 1961.

Interest was shown in the design by Mervyn Richardson, Chairman of Victa Ltd —best known for making lawn mowers&mdash who at the time had some aviation manufacturing interests. VH-MVA was later re-engined and was the first Airtourer 115 around 1963. As for FMM, it is owned by the Museum of Victoria having last been displayed at the Australian Naval Aviation Museum in Nowra, NSW.

During the period 1961 to 1966, Victa Ltd., undertook production of the all metal Airtourer, building both 100 and 115 hp models. Production by Victa took place until 1966 when the production closed down.

As the Australian Government had rejected Victa’s appeals for tariff protection assistance, and for funding assistance to keep the production lines open, the company had no choice other than to close down its Aviation Division in February 1966 by which time, it had built 168 aircraft.

The manufacturing rights to the Airtourer were purchased the following year by the New Zealand maintenance firm Aero Engine Services Ltd (AESL) in New Zealand where further production of 115 and 150 hp models took place until 1971. Ironically, one of its largest offshore orders came from the Royal Australian Air Force which purchased fifty-one uprated Airtourers (known as CT4 Airtrainers) between 1975 and 1982. These remained in service as the RAAF’s ab initio trainer until 1993 and indeed, the CT4 is still being used (in Tamworth)as the basic trainer for all Australian military pilot training.

A total of 168 were completed or significantly completed by Victa in Sydney and a further 80 built by AESL in Hamilton NZ. Actually it would be correct to say that 170 serial numbers were issued by Victa and 80 by AESL.

Examination of the records show that some of the late serial numbers issued by Victa were completed in NZ and issued with a NZ serial number (starting at 501). In addition, some of the Victa built aircraft were rebuilt in the factory by AESL and issued with NZ serial numbers which accounts for some duplication.

The Australian Certificates of Type Approval for the Victa Air Tourer 100 and 115 are now held by the Airtourer Cooperative Ltd of New South Wales, Australia.[1][2]

Some 90 aircraft remain in Australia with around 20 or so elsewhere, mainly in NZ and the UK





[edit] Trivia
Probably not the 1st 2 seat side by side aircraft designed with a central 'stick' but one of the 1st with a 'square hand grip' version.
Easy to fly from both seats due to the central stick design and arm rest.
When fitted with a 150hp engine - was a reasonable trainer in aerobatics. It also gave a fair amount extra ground speed for long distance/cruising.
Had central mounted ashtray above the panel (with a non spring loaded top). Pre flight checks always included emptying the ashtray before aeros....

[edit] Variants
AESL produced 7 Airtourers from parts provided by Victa, before launching production of its own aircraft, ultimately produced in 7 different variants:

T1 powered by a 100 hp Continental O-200 engine
T2 powered by a 115 hp Lycoming O-235 engine
T3 powered by a 130 hp Rolls Royce O-240 engine
T4 powered by a 150 hp Lycoming O-320-E1A - fixed pitch propellor
T5 powered by a 150 hp Lycoming O-320-E1A - Controlled Speed propellor
T6 initially a small run of 4 aircraft for the RNZAF, powered by a 150 hp Lycoming O-320-E1A - Constant Speed propellor with gross weight increased from T-5 and 24 volt electrics.
T8 powered by a 160 hp Lycoming AEIO-320 with fuel injection.
(The T7 was offered as a fixed pitch T6, but none were ordered).

AESL delivery pilot Cliff Tait used an Airtourer for a record breaking flight, circumnavigating the world between May and August 1969 and covering 53,097km in 288 flying hours in ZK-CXU.

A higher powered 4 seat variant, called the Aircrusier, had been built as a one off by Victa in 1966. Ownership of this aircraft passed to AESL who rebuilt it as a prototype of the successful CT/4 Airtrainer, production of which continues by AESL descendant, Pacific Aerospace.

AESL production of the Airtourer commenced in July 1967 and terminated after the delivery of 87 aircraft in July 1973. Rights to produce the Airtourer were sold to Edge Aviation of Australia, who rebuilt a single AESL aircraft, but no further production followed. A large number of Airtourers continue to fly, particularly in Australasia.

[deaneb]

Yep you got it - its pretty hard to re-word to avoid google searches huh !!

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