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Postby Kelvinr » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:37 pm

I have managed to find some extremely high resolution images of Pauanui. I will momentarily upload some screenshots here to give you guys an idea of the capability of fsx. Just to give you an idea, this scenery is 2gb in size and is quite a small area. Watch this space...
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Postby creator2003 » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:42 pm

Awesome mate ,cant wait to see winkyy.gif
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Postby Kelvinr » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:36 pm

I'll let you judge with your own eyes.


























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Postby creator2003 » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:42 pm

WOW see what you mean wish more of NZ was at that res and we could all use it without doing all the work etc and copyright bull

nice work man 10 out of ten for the effort thumbup1.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:05 pm

I think a new version of autogen has to be designed for this photo material smile.gif
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Postby Kelvinr » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:07 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Oct 18 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW see what you mean wish more of NZ was at that res and we could all use it without doing all the work etc and copyright bull

nice work man 10 out of ten for the effort thumbup1.gif


I am following up how i can share this scenery 'legally'. If anyone has 'useful' advise on who I may need to contact please feel free to pm me.
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Postby toprob » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:16 pm

Kelvinr wrote:
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I am following up how i can share this scenery 'legally'. If anyone has 'useful' advise on who I may need to contact please feel free to pm me.


Do you know who owns the imagery?

(That last shot is amazing -- I wish we could at least get roads that looked like that...)

EDIT: from looking at Google, the imagery belongs to the Thames-Coromandel District Council. You can ask them if you can use it -- that's what I did with Paraparaumu. I just needed to sign a contract which restricted the use to FS, but it was easy enough to negotiate.
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Postby NZ255 » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:40 pm

The Hi-res imagary is almost everwhere on the peninsular
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Postby Kelvinr » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:40 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Oct 18 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you know who owns the imagery?

(That last shot is amazing -- I wish we could at least get roads that looked like that...)

EDIT: from looking at Google, the imagery belongs to the Thames-Coromandel District Council. You can ask them if you can use it -- that's what I did with Paraparaumu. I just needed to sign a contract which restricted the use to FS, but it was easy enough to negotiate.


Thanks Robin, Yeah I like the last shot too. I'll post some more pics soon. All I need now is Real Environment Extreme to come online.
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Postby cirrusnature » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:23 am

I'm willing to buy 2 Terabyte of HDD or more if that's what it takes to cover NZ in this quality. Robin ,I think there's a market for this laugh.gif
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Postby Timmo » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:10 am

hehe- I can actually see my Aunties house in this shot- Just to the left of the skid!



If you need any tips about who to talk to about getting this, then let me know.....I don't have any specific contacts but know the things to ask/promise. I think you may be hampered by the fact you have obtained it from GE even though it is TCDC's imagery? You can always ask?
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Postby toprob » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:19 am

cirrusnature wrote:
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I'm willing to buy 2 Terabyte of HDD or more if that's what it takes to cover NZ in this quality. Robin ,I think there's a market for this laugh.gif


I'm sure there would be, but it just isn't going to happen in the next decade.

If you look at Google Earth, you'll see the problem -- this particular area is one of the the few which shows up in GE in high resolution. Less than 5% of the country is available in this resolution, and it normally belongs to the local councils. I know that I could get permission to use it, as I've done so for Paraparaumu, but, like Paraparaumu, I wouldn't be able to sell it. Even if the whole country was available, I suspect it would cost me about $100,000 to build the scenery, with no way of recovering any of this:)

HOWEVER, I will continue to point out that anyone with FSX can ALREADY access this imagery, for free, through TileProxy.

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Oct 19 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you need any tips about who to talk to about getting this, then let me know.....I don't have any specific contacts but know the things to ask/promise. I think you may be hampered by the fact you have obtained it from GE even though it is TCDC's imagery? You can always ask?


Very good point -- with Paraparaumu, the image was actually available from the council website, rather than Google, and I didn't attempt to use that -- I just wrote to the council and asked if they could supply the imagery. I would be inclined to do the same here -- 'Hey, I notice that you folk own some very nice aerial imagery which is displayed on Google Earth. I'd really like to be able to use this for a freeware flightsim project I'm working on.'
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Postby Kelvinr » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:21 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Oct 19 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure there would be, but it just isn't going to happen in the next decade.

If you look at Google Earth, you'll see the problem -- this particular area is one of the the few which shows up in GE in high resolution. Less than 5% of the country is available in this resolution, and it normally belongs to the local councils. I know that I could get permission to use it, as I've done so for Paraparaumu, but, like Paraparaumu, I wouldn't be able to sell it. Even if the whole country was available, I suspect it would cost me about $100,000 to build the scenery, with no way of recovering any of this:)

HOWEVER, I will continue to point out that anyone with FSX can ALREADY access this imagery, for free, through TileProxy.



Very good point -- with Paraparaumu, the image was actually available from the council website, rather than Google, and I didn't attempt to use that -- I just wrote to the council and asked if they could supply the imagery. I would be inclined to do the same here -- 'Hey, I notice that you folk own some very nice aerial imagery which is displayed on Google Earth. I'd really like to be able to use this for a freeware flightsim project I'm working on.'


I agree that it would be too expensive to create scenery like this and unless I win lotto I won't invest money/time into it that would put me at a loss. What scenery I do make is, I feel, is better used by all the flight sim community which is why I would go the small distance to see if I can redistribute what I make. At worst I would only charge a couple of dollars for the physical dvd as it would be a nightmare trying to download huge amounts of data from the net. If the size is small enough I would upload. I believe this is the only way to experience ' as real as it gets'. There are copius amounts of aerial imagery for tonnes of places in New Zealand that have not been covered by developers at this stage and I think if everyone contributed what they can then we would have many new and exciting places to visit. The only thing to invest is a nice attitude to persuade councils to allow the imagery to be redistributed. Anyway it's an idea...see how it all goes!
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Postby benwynn » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:55 pm

Looking good mate, im sure in 10-15 years time, there will be some way to morph this into flight sim, and get great frame rates with our 16 core computers tongue.gif
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Postby NZ255 » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:42 pm

benwynn wrote:
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Looking good mate, im sure in 10-15 years time, there will be some way to morph this into flight sim

um...that is in FS..... unsure.gif
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