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Postby flightnse » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:22 am

I love to fly air new zealand link's flights. New_Zealand_etc.gif
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Postby Michael » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:32 am

I fly 737 flights around cause I get some joy when I get to descend from 33,000 feet. ;D

I did Wellington to Rarotonga a couple of days ago and now I'm doing Miami to St Marteen. (However you spell it)
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Postby Cliff » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:39 pm

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QUOTE (Phil @ Jan 28 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm quite new to simming (about 12 months) and have found I enjoy re-enacting historic flights. I'm currently re-flying New Zealand's Cliff Tait's epic 1969 round-the-world flight in his Airtourer 115 from Hamilton. He flew it during my PPL training days and I followed the journey with great interest. (His actual plane is on display at MOTAT.) At the moment, I'm on the long leg from Guam to Iwo Jima. I'll fly/navigate for an hour or two, then save progress and read up on his next stage. I use "real-weather". There were interesting thunderstorms between Honiara and Tokua (originally Rabaul) the other night. I have also tried to use 1960's navigation technology but because Cliff relied quite a lot on his ability to "read the waves" for changes in wind directions that's not usually practical - FSX is not up to that standard (yet!) This means there is a lot of allowances made to the historical accuracy of the flight but that's OK.
I'm keeping a screenshot record of course but much of the Pacific, although very accurately portrayed, is pretty generic so pics of airfields have tended to have a sameness about them. I have allowed myself the luxury of detouring at times. My chief flying instructor was a WWII Corsair pilot once based on Green Island in the Solomons so I took time out to have a look at "his" area - it is now registered as Nissan but it is there in FSX and it appears to be accurately placed. I'm going to send him a copy of that screen shot but I don't expect he'll be very impressed.
I try to keep to Cliff's flight times too - his book "Flight of the Kiwi" is quite detailed in that respect.
As an experience I find this type of simming very challenging but also surprisingly rewarding.
I have some other historic routes lined up next including some of the Pacific Tourist flights from the glorious Flyingboat days of the 1950s and the fateful one-way flight to Erebus itself. The last great air race from England to NZ (1953?) could be interesting (plenty of planes to choose from) perhaps even Jean Batten's historic flight to Mangere from England if I can find a Percival Gull to fly and some accurate flight records.
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hello phil good to know of your interest in my flights and let you know i live in matamata
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Postby Alfashark » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:49 pm

Wow! Welcome to NZFF, Cliff!

I'm sure that your adventures proving that Kiwis really can fly inspired more than a couple of members on here to follow an interest in aviation, virtual or otherwise thumbup1.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:18 am

Cliff , exactly what our 'Alfashark' Steve whathesaid.gif , Damm perfect to follow real time history , I recon it would be superb to follow your exploits and match it t book cool.gif

In a gorgeous screen shot rendition , Cliff .. We all are waiting , no rush .... looking forward to this . smile.gif
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Postby nalbers » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:25 am

At the moment like to make Mountain flights in NZ from smaller airports or lakes, I'm currently exploring the flight characteristics of the Default Cessna Grand Caravan or Cessna Caravan Amphibian.

When I have more time I like to fly the larger jets: I use the PIC 737-300 for city-city flights in NZ, even though I don't have a very accurate repaint (I can't find any NZ repaints for the PIC 737-300,400 or 500, probably because Air NZ didn't use 737's of that particular model). That said, I do find it strange to be flying easyjet flights in NZ, since that's more of a European operation.

I also like to tool about between random medium to large sized airports in my Cessna Citation X. The wilco/feelthere model is a pretty nice flyer.
When I'm planning on flying IFR, I use Radar Contact for ATC, just to keep me busy in a reasonably realistic manner. I only use default ATC when forced to by sudden bouts of cloud during VRF GA flights. That said, I almost always fly under real world weather, just for the surprise factor.
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Postby spongebob206 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:34 am

Welome aboard Cliff.

I love the Air tourer also, however would prefer the 130hp. Must of been a slow scenic trip.

Cheers and enjoy NZFF
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Postby husker » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:53 pm

Hi Niels - AirNZ do indeed fly the 737-300 (only the 300 in-fact)

I too use the PIC 737-300 and was surprised there are no AirNZ repaints - I think most of the AirNZ repaints are for default or free aircraft. A project for somone? Please :-)

Though I just got the F1 Cessna Mustang and I don't think I can bring myself to fly anything else again!

Cheers, Wayne.
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Postby deeknow » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:01 am

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I too use the PIC 737-300 and was surprised there are no AirNZ repaints


Actually there are already a couple of repaints for the Wilco/FT PIC.

Timothy Clark's ZK-NGH..
http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?FileN...wilco733pic.zip

and Jakob Klein's Holiday ZK-FRE
http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=127700

edit: have just added both of these to http://www.nzfsim.org/
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Postby husker » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:10 pm

great! thanks! :-)
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Postby skelstar » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:48 am

Wgtn - Woodburn - Nelson flights in a B1900d, flying down the West Coast also, 737 flights in Aus. Currently doing a bit of a tour around Europe (never been in "person") in a Fokker 70 (awesome model)... just decide route and download free mesh for each country that I visit. Learn heaps about the geography as I go (UK, France, Swiss, Italy, Greece, Turkey so far). Awesomeness.
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Postby Phil » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:31 pm

Cliff wrote:
QUOTE (Cliff @ Mar 20 2009, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hello phil good to know of your interest in my flights and let you know i live in matamata
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This is to acknowledge your message thanks Cliff and that I've enjoyed your personal correspondence over the past few days. I look forward to meeting you (soon I hope) - thanks for the personal invitation.
Anyone reading this who is not familiar with Cliff's historic 1969 exploit should Google his name and/or try to find a copy of his book "Flight of the Kiwi" in your local library. In brief, exactly 40 years ago next month (May) Cliff attempted and successfully achieved four months later an "impossible" aeronautical task and, against all odds, set a world record (one of many as it turned out later). He was almost completely ignored by New Zealand at the time possibly because he did not fit the mold of great achievers of the time - he did not come from "recognised fraternity" - he was self-taught, had only personal financing behind him and he did not have a large publicity machine. I believe Cliff will fall into the same category as people such as Richard Pearce and will only be truly acknowledged when it's too late.
It is a great experience to be able to "follow" his flight on a simulator. I am currently at the half-way stage and am looking forward to the challenge of being a Kiwi pilot in Greenland with only 115 HP and a small tiki in front of me (from the safety of my living room of course)!

Phil

PS. Cliff tells me he's been simming since 1983.
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:00 pm

Phil wrote:
QUOTE (Phil @ Mar 27 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is to acknowledge your message thanks Cliff and that I've enjoyed your personal correspondence over the past few days. I look forward to meeting you (soon I hope) - thanks for the personal invitation.
Anyone reading this who is not familiar with Cliff's historic 1969 exploit should Google his name and/or try to find a copy of his book "Flight of the Kiwi" in your local library. In brief, exactly 40 years ago next month (May) Cliff attempted and successfully achieved four months later an "impossible" aeronautical task and, against all odds, set a world record (one of many as it turned out later). He was almost completely ignored by New Zealand at the time possibly because he did not fit the mold of great achievers of the time - he did not come from "recognised fraternity" - he was self-taught, had only personal financing behind him and he did not have a large publicity machine. I believe Cliff will fall into the same category as people such as Richard Pearce and will only be truly acknowledged when it's too late.
It is a great experience to be able to "follow" his flight on a simulator. I am currently at the half-way stage and am looking forward to the challenge of being a Kiwi pilot in Greenland with only 115 HP and a small tiki in front of me (from the safety of my living room of course)!

Phil

PS. Cliff tells me he's been simming since 1983.


Phil , a man with the same name as our famous test pilot and adventura Cliff Tait . I think there is a little mix up .
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Postby Emanuelchristos » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:03 pm

I usually fly back and forth from NZPP to NZWN in small planes like the cessna, the cub and the ultralight, sometimes I make longer trips in NZ. Ive never been that far South.
I've only been simming for a year or so, and somehow ive never come across a decent crosswind in the real world weather, so recently Ive been flying a around an airport landing and taking off.
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Postby Phil » Fri May 08, 2009 11:57 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Mar 27 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Phil , a man with the same name as our famous test pilot and adventura Cliff Tait . I think there is a little mix up .




There is no mix-up Ian ...

I have just had the privilege and pleasure of having afternoon tea with Cliff and his wife Joyce in their lovely home in Matamata.
Joyce said she could vouch that this man truly was the real "Cliff Tait" alright.
The book Cliff is holding is my copy of his book: "Flight of the Kiwi" which he had just autographed for me.

Interesting to note that next Tuesday, May 12, is the 40th anniversary of Cliff's departure from Hamilton on his famous flight.

How can we celebrate? After all Cliff is a forum member and has been simming for 30 years and still averages 30 hours a week with a pretty swish computer ("Oh it's just something I put together my self".)

Phil

PS: I have now arrived in England in my re-inactment of his round-the-world flight - next leg is to France.
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Postby creator2003 » Sat May 09, 2009 11:47 am

Well im truly honoured to have a member of cliffs experance and achivements here on our forums it is truely a big thing knowing he is around so close to our hearts ,we will have to do something on here to celebrate 40 years since that day he left on a maybe ill come back maybe i wont ...
im not much of a book reader but this one ill have to go and find just to here all about thank you so much to your contrbution to real avation and to our simming world


you are a legend take a bow notworthy.gif

thnks phil for bring this all to light thumbup1.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat May 09, 2009 1:40 pm

Im very pleased that is sorted but even More pleased to have us introduced , Hello Cliff , I did meet you many years ago at Wigram after your trans-Tasman flight . I went into my local Tech book shop and to Whitcollues to source a copy of Flight of the Kiwi , let you all no how available it is in the next couple of days .
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 15, 2009 1:54 pm

Update ... Phil your a lucky man , The book is out of print , only copies would be a cache find in a second hand book shop , thru normal channels Whitcoulles did a check with there second handers and found nothing . sad.gif
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Postby Bazza » Fri May 15, 2009 3:12 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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Update ... Phil your a lucky man , The book is out of print , only copies would be a cache find in a second hand book shop , thru normal channels Whitcoulles did a check with there second handers and found nothing . sad.gif


Ian, There's a couple for sale at Amazon, see link below, presumably $70-00 US. Depends on how much you want one. One sold on TradeMe in March but dunno price...cheers



http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/072...;condition=used
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Postby shotgun » Fri May 15, 2009 4:47 pm

I fly low level Evac missions in low visibly in my NH 90 and Huey. ninja.gif
Or just a few circuits in my c150. plane.gif
Even aerobatics in my CT4 downloaded for the RNZAF's web site. New_Zealand_etc.gif
Hers a link.
Only in FSX format though. winkyy.gif
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