Fire on board Jetstar flight to Gold Coast

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Postby Goose » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:38 am

Had to make an emergency landing in Guam, everyone ok though thankfully

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/fire-board-je...d-coast-2779362

how the hell does a window catch fire?
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Postby TVACGCEO » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:14 am

The A330 isnt having a good start to the month. Good ? although, how does a cockpit window catch fire.
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Postby slopit12 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:40 am

TVACGCEO wrote:
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The A330 isnt having a good start to the month. Good ? although, how does a cockpit window catch fire.


Neither is Jetstar!

I'm guessing it could have something to do with the cockpit window heat, they have been known to malfunction. I've heard of them cracking the glass, but never catching fire; it surely wasn't the actual glass that was on fire right!?
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Postby BigBird » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:14 pm

Jaysus! Not a great year or so for Airbus!

Maybe these type of things happen all the time and it's just because of the recent incidents that all the other minor mishaps start coming out of the woodwork?
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Postby d3fai13r » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:21 pm

arghhh, when 777 have emergency in LHR, then few engines shutdown(AF on TATL, in Moscow), smoke BA in Africa-no problem. Please avoid double evaluation.
Airbus will crash, especially 320, as near 5000 built, and statistically they are going to crash. Same with other Airbus aircrafts, same with 777. Thats life...
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Postby deaneb » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:21 pm

Goose wrote:
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how the hell does a window catch fire?


Cockpit windows on larger aircraft are laminated from layers of glass and plastic (acrylics and poycarbonates). They are heated so that they not only freeze or fog up, but also to maintain their flexibility which makes them able to better absorb impact - e.g birdstrikes, whereby the glass will shatter, but the plastic layers will hold things together. Heating is achieved by passing a an electrical current through a very thin, transparent coating of metal (typically tin oxides or gold) or small near invisible wires in a grid between the laminations.
So an electrical short plus plastic can equal fire, although its the first I've heard of this happening.
De-lamination due to the breakdown of the heating elements is a very common cause for replacement of windows after a period of time.

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Postby larral1123 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:44 pm

Man Airbus is falling
Have a GREAT holiday
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Postby Alex » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:56 pm

larral1123 wrote:
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Man Airbus is falling

As much as I love freedom of expression, I would like to see some proof to back up your statement. wink.gif

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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:04 pm

Alex wrote:
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As much as I love freedom of expression, I would like to see some proof to back up your statement. wink.gif

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Ah, so rationality does exist here. laugh.gif
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Postby benwynn » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:00 am

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Postby Goose » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:29 am

deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Jun 11 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cockpit windows on larger aircraft are laminated from layers of glass and plastic (acrylics and poycarbonates). They are heated so that they not only freeze or fog up, but also to maintain their flexibility which makes them able to better absorb impact - e.g birdstrikes, whereby the glass will shatter, but the plastic layers will hold things together. Heating is achieved by passing a an electrical current through a very thin, transparent coating of metal (typically tin oxides or gold) or small near invisible wires in a grid between the laminations.
So an electrical short plus plastic can equal fire, although its the first I've heard of this happening.
De-lamination due to the breakdown of the heating elements is a very common cause for replacement of windows after a period of time.

Deane


well there ya go, thanks deane, i did not know that! smile.gif
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