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Postby Trev » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:04 pm

http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html

theres a company in the states that makes replica Me 262's. They use modern General Electric J-85 / CJ-610 motors in them instead of the original Jumo 004B. J-85s are to be buried deep inside carefully-engineered castings of the original engine, so that correct visual appearance will be retained. The Jumo housings are also necessary to maintain the correct nacelle weight since the J-85 is a much lighter engine than its German predecessor.


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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:11 pm

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http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html

theres a company in the states that makes replica Me 262's. They use modern General Electric J-85 / CJ-610 motors in them instead of the original Jumo 004B. J-85s are to be buried deep inside carefully-engineered castings of the original engine, so that correct visual appearance will be retained. The Jumo housings are also necessary to maintain the correct nacelle weight since the J-85 is a much lighter engine than its German predecessor.

Theres nothing you cant do if you throw enough money at it.

Thanks for that link - I'd seen a similar one elsewhere that I think was just "mirroring" the Stormbirds stuff. It's just as well the Hitler never understood the full potential of these fantastic little fighters... ninja.gif I read Adolf Galant's book recently - very illuminating information on how things really were inside the Luftwaffe during the war, and his experiences actually flying a 262 in combat. I was especially interested in his last couple of paragraphs. He says that after landing from his final sortie, there were only a few (can't remember the number - less than 10 anyway) airworthy 262s at the airfield, and the American pilots were buzzing about stopping them from taking off. As US ground forces came into view to capture them, Galant & the ground personnel torched all the 262s - the American fighter jocks were HUGELY peeved when they landed, as they had all been hoping to get to have a fly in a 262.
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Postby Splitpin » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:54 pm

drool.gif Foxbat.....now your talking IB.....maybe a flanker?
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Postby deaneb » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:13 pm

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I'm not so worried about the sound - heck, the sound of a Merlin coming out of a P51 is weird (if beautiful... wub.gif ) to me! And I have heard of 1 of those outfits that you mention who build the Mustangs - I think I even stumbled over their website sometime in the last couple of years.


Not sure why that sound is weird?? The Mustang has always had a V12. Originally they were Allison engines but these lacked power for higher altitude and later models were fitted with the Merlin. I thought majority of Mustangs were Rolls Royce Merlin, then Packard Merlin powered !!
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:14 pm

Splitpin wrote:
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drool.gif Foxbat.....now your talking IB.....maybe a flanker?

I thought that would appeal to you! biggrin.gif Yup, the flanker is pretty cool - but I think I prefer the Foxbat: gotta love those huge, square "Russian" intakes! wub.gif

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Not sure why that sound is weird?? The Mustang has always had a V12. Originally they were Allison engines but these lacked power for higher altitude and later models were fitted with the Merlin. I thought majority of Mustangs were Rolls Royce Merlin, then Packard Merlin powered !!

Only "weird" inasmuch as I've always been a Merlin=Spitfire type of guy. I still remember hearing the P51 for the first time in NZ thinking "Hey, he's stolen a spitty's engine!"... tongue.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:13 pm

One thing Peter , did book your mention the very unreliable Jumo with max hours off 24-27 before a complete overhaul required or they fail . I have a couple good books on the US Army Corps loitering the jet fields , one person was Chuck Yeager .
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:31 pm

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One thing Peter , did book your mention the very unreliable Jumo with max hours off 24-27 before a complete overhaul required or they fail . I have a couple good books on the US Army Corps loitering the jet fields , one person was Chuck Yeager .

Yeah, there were some unflattering remarks about the Jumo's. If I remember rightly, Galant said that he had a few occasions when the engines just up and quit on him. Now, that would put the wind up in a combat situation! It's been a few months since I read the book (which I borrowed), so I'm not clear on some of the details, sorry.
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