Force Feedback Yoke!

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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:09 pm

Hey all

Found this today:

http://secure.simmarket.com/advanced_searc...+FORCE+FEEDBACK

What a steal - only $2k NZD + freight! Let's all get one... tongue.gif

Well, at least we know they exist now. cool.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:27 pm

Jeezzz Pete , don,t put idea's in my head, you no what i,m like , thankful for the bang on it ( my head ) , i should forget this in 10 minutes or so rolleyes.gif
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:40 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 2 2010, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jeezzz Pete , don,t put idea's in my head, you no what i,m like , thankful for the bang on it ( my head ) , i should forget this in 10 minutes or so rolleyes.gif

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Postby spongebob206 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:51 pm

My misses would have a fit if she saw this post.

I brought a Force feedback pro when they first come out for FS98. $700 back then from memory.
Man was it a fight to get and when I couldn't use it on the new computer, there was hell to pay.

Still have it in storage. Mint condition.

Anyone know if I can purchase a converter for USB? I have tried in the past (dick Smith) but it didn't work.

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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:58 pm

spongebob206 wrote:
QUOTE (spongebob206 @ Oct 2 2010, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My misses would have a fit if she saw this post.

I brought a Force feedback pro when they first come out for FS98. $700 back then from memory.
Man was it a fight to get and when I couldn't use it on the new computer, there was hell to pay.

Still have it in storage. Mint condition.

Anyone know if I can purchase a converter for USB? I have tried in the past (dick Smith) but it didn't work.

Cheers

By golly, you committed one of the big ones there - a brand new expensive toy that sits in the cupboard! How many nights on the couch and cooked dinners did that cost you? ninja.gif tongue.gif

Had you considered buying a PCI card that has a Gameport on it? That would be your best bet, as those Gameport to USB connectors are really only for basic things. Just a thought.
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Postby spongebob206 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:00 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Oct 2 2010, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Had you considered buying a PCI card that has a Gameport on it? That would be your best bet, as those Gameport to USB connectors are really only for basic things. Just a thought.


No spare PCI slots sad.gif

Maybe a new PC smile.gif Yeah right sad.gif
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:07 pm

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Maybe a new PC smile.gif Yeah right sad.gif

Ah, the eternal hope of the simmer hard at work! biggrin.gif

What about a new motherboard that will fit your old CPU, but an ATX one (presumably you have an mATX now?). It would involve a new case as well (unless your current case can take both mATX & ATX), but it would still be cheaper than a whole new PC.
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:49 pm

I have a couple off USB/PCI adaptor plugs here , they come with recent hardware mobos and bits and pieces , is that sorta thing you require or you have tried them out .
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Postby ZK-MAT » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:16 pm

Did you try Dick Smith cat XH8290? They have a support page with drivers and instructions, I had one that I used on an old joystick (but gave it away duh!) and from memory I had to allocate a USB socket as a serial port and select a baud rate etc.
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Postby AndrewJamez » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:29 pm

Its tobad that microsoft flightsim has darnation force feedback realism. The feedback is about 2 seconds delay behind stick input however I have seen a 3rd party forcefeedback software that brings these controllers to life.



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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:55 pm

I tried the first force feedback in 1998 , sorta was,nt happy with it - wait till you try it in combat sim .. really walk away with a sweat ! phew biggrin.gif
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Postby Rotordude » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:28 am

spongebob206 wrote:
QUOTE (spongebob206 @ Oct 2 2010, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My misses would have a fit if she saw this post.

I brought a Force feedback pro when they first come out for FS98. $700 back then from memory.
Man was it a fight to get and when I couldn't use it on the new computer, there was hell to pay.


You dont know the code of marriage purchasing ?

"Tis always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission" tongue.gif
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Postby spongebob206 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:09 am

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Oct 3 2010, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You dont know the code of marriage purchasing ?

"Tis always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to get permission" tongue.gif


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Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 2 2010, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a couple off USB/PCI adaptor plugs here , they come with recent hardware mobos and bits and pieces , is that sorta thing you require or you have tried them out .


Have tried the USB/PCI but it didn't work.

ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Oct 2 2010, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you try Dick Smith cat XH8290? They have a support page with drivers and instructions, I had one that I used on an old joystick (but gave it away duh!) and from memory I had to allocate a USB socket as a serial port and select a baud rate etc.


Will give this ago thanks smile.gif

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Oct 2 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, the eternal hope of the simmer hard at work! biggrin.gif

What about a new motherboard that will fit your old CPU, but an ATX one (presumably you have an mATX now?). It would involve a new case as well (unless your current case can take both mATX & ATX), but it would still be cheaper than a whole new PC.


Thanks Mate, will do if all else fails, however as you know my PC is dated. Will be good for the kids home work.






Thanks Everyone smile.gif
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Postby happytraveller » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:02 am

ah, but it is even worse, you need one yoke for the 737 AND one yoke for general aviation, so the damage is doubly bad. Add to that the cost of a new computer to run it all and a share in a real aircraft looks cheaper!

smooth landings.
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Postby spongebob206 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:04 pm

happytraveller wrote:
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ah, but it is even worse, you need one yoke for the 737 AND one yoke for general aviation, so the damage is doubly bad. Add to that the cost of a new computer to run it all and a share in a real aircraft looks cheaper!

smooth landings.



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Postby Fozzer » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:57 pm

spongebob206 wrote:
QUOTE (spongebob206 @ Oct 2 2010, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My misses would have a fit if she saw this post.

I brought a Force feedback pro when they first come out for FS98. $700 back then from memory.
Man was it a fight to get and when I couldn't use it on the new computer, there was hell to pay.

Still have it in storage. Mint condition.

Anyone know if I can purchase a converter for USB? I have tried in the past (dick Smith) but it didn't work.

Cheers


After having a number of simple Joysticks for my older, 1980's Spectrum, Commodore, Amstrad, and Amiga, etc, computer games, my first PC Joystick was my Microsoft Force Feed back Pro, cost me £100 in 1998 for Flight Unlimited II, Pro Pilot 2, Gunship, etc, and died a couple of years ago, internal fault, (still got it)....
....and the first thing I did...and still do..is to disable the force-feedback effect.... thumbup1.gif ... !

I find the effect extremely annoying...angry.gif...!
The ground "bump sensation" in the Aircraft should be felt by your Bum...not your hands... rolleyes.gif ...!

I find I have to purchase the "Force-feedback" type of joystick just to obtain the; "Twist action" for the Aircraft; "Rudder" control!

The Joystick Force Feedback effect I can well manage without... biggrin.gif ...!

For me, a Flight Yoke, (if I required one), without Force-Feedback would be perfectly acceptable.

Paul...with a "smooth" Stick of Joy!... cool.gif...!

Cyborg!
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Postby SeanTK » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:44 am

While we're on the subject of pricey force-feedback toys:
http://www.thebuttkicker.com/gaming/index.htm
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:41 am

SeanTK wrote:
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While we're on the subject of pricey force-feedback toys:
http://www.thebuttkicker.com/gaming/index.htm

Yep - I've sold a couple of those. They're pretty good, if a little fiddly to setup and get just right. Anyone here have one of these? If yes, how do you rate it?
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