What Happened To Flightsim.com?

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Postby gojozoom » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:33 am

Morning,

Is this another hack attack? Flightsim.com comes up with a forbidden 403 message. Is it just maintenance?

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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:07 am

Quiet possible Daniel , i have mail from RAZBAM letting all no they have been hacked and all is up and running but the link still is not working . Get the same error message 'forbidden 403 message' at the RAZBAM site .
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Postby gojozoom » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:16 am

I can't believe that some cr@p-head did this again.

"Hmmm, I don't have friends, I never leave my house, what should I do to avoid boredom? Aaah, let's screw up a server which provides free services, and full support to a strong and friendly community!"

Why don't you play with banks or FBI servers idiot?

Sorry guys, I'm a pretty laid back, calm dude in general, but I could torture these maggots for hours.....


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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:24 am

gojozoom wrote:
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l, but I could torture these maggots for hours.....

I bags the hammer on the hands first , we will swap you can have a go for two hours while i work on the knee caps .
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Postby gojozoom » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:34 am

I'm a teamplayer too smile.gif

Anyway, the site is back, however I can't see any notes about the outage....misterious...
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Postby Dean » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:56 pm

We got hacked a while back too. Some people are not worth the air they breathe.
Fortunately we had backups, but last time it gave us the incentive to overhaul our shopping cart system to something better and less "hackable".

Now we have a system that automatically backs up our sites several times per day smile.gif
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Postby Fozzer » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:37 pm

Dean wrote:
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We got hacked a while back too. Some people are not worth the air they breathe.
Fortunately we had backups, but last time it gave us the incentive to overhaul our shopping cart system to something better and less "hackable".

Now we have a system that automatically backs up our sites several times per day smile.gif


WSP ..."Worlds Serious Pilots" has been out of action for days now, and no indication of when it will return.

I e-mailed Robert at WSP, regarding the problem....no success!

Many of us use their excellent Multiplayer Servers daily, so at the moment we are all grounded, apart from the NZ "inSPire" Server.

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Postby connor » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:32 am

gojozoom wrote:
QUOTE (gojozoom @ Feb 11 2011, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe that some cr@p-head did this again.

"Hmmm, I don't have friends, I never leave my house, what should I do to avoid boredom? Aaah, let's screw up a server which provides free services, and full support to a strong and friendly community!"

Why don't you play with banks or FBI servers idiot?

Sorry guys, I'm a pretty laid back, calm dude in general, but I could torture these maggots for hours.....


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Postby AlisterC » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:49 am

I can't believe how much trouble flight simming sites seem to attract! Is it just that I hear about it when a sim site has been hacked? or is this happening all the time to all the other websites out there? Sheesh laugh.gif
I too can't understand why someone would hack into a simming site, when we're all a pretty decent bunch generally.
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Postby toprob » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:32 pm

It might appear that FS sites are prime targets, but no more so than anything else. If it's on the web, it's a target, no matter what the site is there for. I'm sure that nobody who hacks these sites actually knows or cares what they do, just how they do it, and what exploits they can take advantage of. A while ago I designed a site for a friend, and even though it never went 'live', and has zero visitors, it was recently hacked. No rhyme, no reason, just because. (And because it was 'vacant', it wasn't monitored enough.)

I prefer to think of these attacks as cockroaches -- they have always existed, and always will, so we take the steps we can to limit their damage. Sometimes we shine a light on them and they'll scurry away, but turn the light off and they're back. So we can plug up holes, use bugbombs etc to minimise their impact, but you won't get rid of them. Getting angry with them is pretty pointless as a long-term solution:)

But this isn't just a web thing. We take a lot of steps to protect our property, most of these steps we don't even think about -- lock your door when you go out, don't leave your stuff lying around, don't give your pin number to anyone... but we've had a long time to develop ways of protecting our stuff, whereas on the web things are newer and changing all the time, so we just have to develop new ways. The cockroaches have always been there, and always will.

By the way, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Flightsim.com was hacked -- there are a hundred different ways in which a site can have problems, so don't assume hacking. I get emails every month from NZFF members asking if the forum has been hacked, as they can't access it, but it is almost always a temporary technical problem. If I can't access NZFF I usually wait a couple of hours, and 9 times out of 10 I get an email from our web hosts apologising for and explaining the outage. (They're good that way.)
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:52 pm

Today,s world i,m getting to a stage , do not trust any one with more than three computers a cat and many hundreds of areoplane books and within his life,s circle Chickenman really dose not exist ! WHAT ! tongue.gif
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Postby deeknow » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:06 pm

Rob sums it up nicely, the threat has always been there. I'd just add that the best you can do really is choose a dependable web host, keep your forum (and other scripts) up to date, keep a good eye on any custom scripts you create or edit yourself, make sure permissions are ok, monitor your logs, and backup backup backup !!!
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Postby FlyingKiwi » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:52 am

It's working at the moment for me, although my bookmark doesn't work, but if you just type the address in manually it seems to be working fine.
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Postby AlisterC » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:15 am

Thanks guys for the insight.
My only real experience with that sort of thing is when I had my own website, and I had a forum installed for family members to use only. Despite being what I would have thought was completely 'off the radar' I had to shut it down due to the amount of spam members joining. So sad really.
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Postby steelsporran » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:32 am

 Picked this handy site up from Austerdriver over at CBFS on this topic.


Personally I go "Is it me or is it Blenheim?"   unsure.gif
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Postby AlisterC » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:05 pm

What a brilliant web link, thank you!
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Postby ZK-MAT » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:42 pm

I have sometimes wondered what would happen if "the down for everyone or just me" DNS server messed up, or their site was knocked out ... irony?
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