VLC

[Olderndirt]

Jointly owned by yours truly and Wells Fargo Card Services, my new VLC. This, of course, is the Ashburton Airport with my trusty FR cub.

[scaber]

Ah, nostalgia strikes! I spent a number of happy years in my late kitten-hood living in Ashburton, enjoyed my time there greatly. Spent some time at the airport and was most surprised when i went back there a few years back to see how much it had changed. Thanks for this fresh reminder of those happy times.

[Ian Warren]

Congratulations Dave you now be able to enjoy all the addons incoming for your VLC

[Olderndirt]

First question. What's the preferred priority level in 'scenery library', reference other sceneries i.e. FTX, UTX, Tongass and assorted individual airports? Hopefully I've done something incorrectly, but I found Mt Cook, close up, disappointingly like default - a large lump of poorly defined 'mouuntain' and the snow textures underwhelming.

[Ian Warren]

Dave , already mentioned this is using the default texture , the VLC is a very super accurate Land Class and with the Mesh its now a constant job off tweaking and building , nice thing we can group into dedicated areas , a huge canvas to work on .

[toprob]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Mar 26 2011,1:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

First question. What's the preferred priority level in 'scenery library', reference other sceneries i.e. FTX, UTX, Tongass and assorted individual airports? Hopefully I've done something incorrectly, but I found Mt Cook, close up, disappointingly like default - a large lump of poorly defined 'mouuntain' and the snow textures underwhelming.

There's some tips on priority in the manual, but really most of the areas you mentioned are not really relevant -- VLC covers New Zealand only, so there won't be any conflict with airports outside NZ. You would need to be careful with any scenery which includes landclass or mesh for NZ, or which changes default textures globally. However in this case scenery priority isn't the issue. I would think that provided you follow the procedure to un-FTX etc, you won't get too much conflict. I don't know how UTX works, but I suspect this might be a global texture change -- in which case, the textures may not be suitable for use with VLC. As mentioned, this isn't a priority issue, you may need to switch off conflicting addons.

As a landclass scenery, VLC isn't designed to replace textures, although it does include a few which overcome the main default limitations in NZ -- native bush and pine plantations. However VLC landclass texture changes are confined to NZ only. Global texture changes are confined to a handful of autogen textures, which is controlled by the VLC config tool.

Provided you have the VLC mesh activated, you should see a big different to the shape of Mt Cook, but textures will remain pretty much the same.

[Timmo]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Mar 26 2011,1:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

First question. What's the preferred priority level in 'scenery library', reference other sceneries i.e. FTX, UTX, Tongass and assorted individual airports? Hopefully I've done something incorrectly, but I found Mt Cook, close up, disappointingly like default - a large lump of poorly defined 'mouuntain' and the snow textures underwhelming.

If you could post a screen shot, that may help me figure out what may be going on? (otherwise send me an email at vectorlandclass@gmail.com)

Also, please confirm if you are using the Red Baron Mesh/Topo that these are completely switched off in the scenery library.

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Timmo @ Mar 25 2011,7:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If you could post a screen shot, that may help me figure out what may be going on? (otherwise send me an email at vectorlandclass@gmail.com)

Also, please confirm if you are using the Red Baron Mesh/Topo that these are completely switched off in the scenery library.

No Red Baron Mesh/Topo. One thing I noticed - in my Windows Explorer file list, under Microsoft Flight Simulator X, are seven Vector Land Class entries, of which, two folders don't appear in the scenery library - VECTOR LAND CLASS and VECTOR LAND CLASS_DTM. Should they be there and how is that done? In the VLC config, I have ALL ROADS/MAIN LIGHTS ONLY/MINOR STREAMS ON and the three items are ticked, lower left. I click APPLY then EXIT. The ORBX files were set to default when I installed VLC then swiched back to North America and they automatically placed themselves on top. Here's a couple of shots of what I'm seeing. It looks a lot like default to me .

[Timmo]

Hmmm It doesn't look like VLC is installed at all! Nor wonder you are underwhelmed!

There may be other 'VLCxxxx' folders associated with airfields and libraries (such as VLC_Airfields) but you should only have two 'VectorLandClass' folders- That is: 'VectorLandClass' and 'VectorLandClass_DTM'....so if you have more than these two then something has gone wrong somewhere along the line. These will also need to be added to your scenery library list- The installer would have offered to do this automatically but if that failed for any reason, you will need to do this manually, the same as any other scenery. Let me know if you need a hand with this

If I understand you correctly and you have more than two 'vectorlandclass' folders, and if you are comfortable manually removing the duplicates, then go ahead (if you could let me know what the others are called?!) otherwise you will need to uninstall VLC, check that no 'VectorLandClass' and 'VectorLandClass_DTM' folders exist in your FSX installation path and then re-install.

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Timmo @ Mar 26 2011,1:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hmmm It doesn't look like VLC is installed at all! Nor wonder you are underwhelmed!

There may be other 'VLCxxxx' folders associated with airfields and libraries (such as VLC_Airfields) but you should only have two 'VectorLandClass' folders- That is: 'VectorLandClass' and 'VectorLandClass_DTM'....so if you have more than these two then something has gone wrong somewhere along the line. These will also need to be added to your scenery library list- The installer would have offered to do this automatically but if that failed for any reason, you will need to do this manually, the same as any other scenery. Let me know if you need a hand with this

If I understand you correctly and you have more than two 'vectorlandclass' folders, and if you are comfortable manually removing the duplicates, then go ahead (if you could let me know what the others are called?!) otherwise you will need to uninstall VLC, check that no 'VectorLandClass' and 'VectorLandClass_DTM' folders exist in your FSX installation path and then re-install.

If it's a regular 'addon scenery' install, no problem. I misled you, no duplicates - here are my seven folders. VECTOR LAND CLASS/VECTOR LAND CLASS_DTM/VLC_Airfields/VLC_Libraries/VLCGodzoneAshburton/VLCGodzoneKaikoura/VLCGodzoneKaipouraFlats - all but the first two are in 'scenery library'. It appears those files from your supplementals page downloaded and went to scenery library whereas the download from the purchase page didn't.

[toprob]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Mar 27 2011,10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If it's a regular 'addon scenery' install, no problem. I misled you, no duplicates - here are my seven folders. VECTOR LAND CLASS/VECTOR LAND CLASS_DTM/VLC_Airfields/VLC_Libraries/VLCGodzoneAshburton/VLCGodzoneKaikoura/VLCGodzoneKaipouraFlats - all but the first two are in 'scenery library'. It appears those files from your supplementals page downloaded and went to scenery library whereas the download from the purchase page didn't.

This is from the manual:

QUOTE

The installer will also offer to automatically activate this scenery in the FSX Scenery Library. This is your choice -- some users prefer to activate any new scenery themselves, either by using the Scenery Library option within FSX, or by some other method. If you are happy to allow the installer to do this for you, select the check box. This checkbox is unselected by default.[/quote]

If you choose not to let the installer add the entries, you need to follow the instructions from the manual -- "Manual Addition of VLC (Skip this step if you allowed the installer to automatically add VLC to the library)"

I'd certainly recommend a read through of the manual at least once, there's some interesting stuff there.

[SgtPepper]

Gidday Oldendirt,

Of course i'm no expert but what it looks like to me is that you didn't check the box that automatically installs the first two files into the scenery library.

I did this once, I found it easier to uninstall VLC then reinstall it making sure I check the box that installs those folders into the library. Have a good look through the install instructions it's mentioned there.

Oh ship looks like Rob has already said basically the same thing.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (SgtPepper @ Mar 27 2011,10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh ship

Section is in , now were did 'Trolly' post that wicked photo off the QM2

[Olderndirt]

Looking back on the installation, I don't recall the question. Having installed a few sceneries, manual and installer, over the years - surprised to have overlooked something so apparently obvious. Anyhoo, problem solved - thanks Timmo - pasted two missing, main folders to addon scenery and VOILA - don't tell me this ain't it .

[Ian Warren]

Dave , It appears you still have a texture package overwriting the VLC .

[Timmo]

That looks better
I see you are using non-default textures...which can sometimes make things look 'non kiwi'- But in your case, those are pretty good- Which textures are they?

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Timmo @ Mar 26 2011,4:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That looks better
I see you are using non-default textures...which can sometimes make things look 'non kiwi'- But in your case, those are pretty good- Which textures are they?

Other than a few 'local freebies', all I've downloaded is NZFSX.zip, an addon terrain mesh, by a gent named Harris - two .bgl files, one for north the other for south island. They're an improvement over default.

[AndrewJamez]

I saw you mentioned UTX in an earlier post, I used GenX and UTX etc ages ago and found that they overwrote the default landclass on more than one ocassion. when i started using the older NZ landclass/roads and rivers and the early FTX sceney I binned it because it continually overwrote landclass files on more than 1 ocassion. Probably due to my lack of knowledge at the time? I dint know but scince I stopped using it I have had no more problems with landclass files.

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (AndrewJamez @ Mar 26 2011,6:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I saw you mentioned UTX in an earlier post, I used GenX and UTX etc ages ago and found that they overwrote the default landclass on more than one ocassion. when i started using the older NZ landclass/roads and rivers and the early FTX sceney I binned it because it continually overwrote landclass files on more than 1 ocassion. Probably due to my lack of knowledge at the time? I dint know but scince I stopped using it I have had no more problems with landclass files.

Thanks Andrew. Since ORBX, most of my UTX is disabled but I do have UTXAlaska selected - will try disabling that.