NZFF

by **Olderndirt** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:21 pm

After much to-ing and fro-ing, finally solved by 'Jankees' over on SOH, here's one of my "Little Friends". Don't know much about paint jobs but am not too crazy about this one.

And here's another missing some paint here and there.

by **Adamski** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:45 pm

Olderndirt wrote:
QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Jul 9 2011,1:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After much to-ing and fro-ing, finally solved by 'Jankees' over on SOH, here's one of my "Little Friends". Don't know much about paint jobs but am not too crazy about this one.

Is that one of the default paints? Doesn't look very detailed to me. I often wonder about the panel joins/rivets ... would they be as obvious as that in RL?

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:01 pm

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jul 9 2011,2:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I often wonder about the panel joins/rivets ... would they be as obvious as that in RL?

They do stand out after long periods of use , the same model is on the banner and do have a lot off reference photos showing very weathered around panels and joints and rivets , quick release screws.

by **Olderndirt** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:13 am

Not knowing all the hows and whys, it appears that additional black paint lines are used to enhance panel lines and, where dzus or other type fasteners are located, a black '+' is placed so I spent perhaps too much time blurring them down. Will try one of "Jankees" repaints and see the comparison.

flightsim.to · by **jankees** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:32 am

but pay attention, according to John Terrell, the maker of this pony, the models and texture layout for the 'little friends' package are not the same as for the 'restored' package, so you may run into problems.

I have one paint looking OK using the 'hubert' model in the 'liitle friends' package, not sure if I'm missing anything there:

You can try that too and see if it works? An attempt at using the 'little friends_75_DT' gave a CTD though...

I have to agree, I'm not too keen on the default schemes either, but he's promised a paintkit, so we'll see what we can do.

by **Olderndirt** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:36 am

Thanks Jan. I've already tried your "Miss Torque" and "Bengal Lancer" with no luck.

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:49 am

Looking good Jan , the best description showing rivet and panel detail specific to NZ2415 was on this forum , a great photo at Taranga , i cant recall the post title but it showed the details .

flightsim.to · by **jankees** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:58 am

the paintkit has arrived, but time will be a problem over the next month at least, (holidays, moving to another country), but patience my friends...

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:00 pm

What Jan , your moving to New Zealand

by **Olderndirt** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:55 pm

jankees wrote:
QUOTE (jankees @ Jul 9 2011,4:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the paintkit has arrived, but time will be a problem over the next month at least, (holidays, moving to another country), but patience my friends...

Downloaded John Terrell's brand new paint from SOH - will see how that goes.

by **Bomber12th** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:15 pm

This is kind of an odd thread to read through, from my point of view, but it is interesting to read the comments here, that I otherwise wouldn't have, thank you!

For those who don't know me, I am the chief developer for Warbirdsim, thus all the visual work you see in Warbirdsim products, is by my hand. I have been somewhat of a long-term lurker here, but I hope to change that!

Just so that no one gets a skewed impression of what the factory fresh RAF P-51K, as included in Warbirdsim's "Little Friends", really looks like in FSX, here are just a few un-edited, straight FSX-stock screenshots, so that you can more fairly judge it by. This is by far the most 'plane-jane' variant in the product, because at the request of so many I decided to include a factory fresh example. I thought it would be unique, to not do 'yet another' stars & bars factory fresh USAAF scheme, but rather a historical, factory fresh P-51K-15-NT, as it exactly looked upon the day of completion, in 1945, at the Dallas, TX NAA plant. This variant was recreated from a photo of the actual aircraft, as it sat awaiting shipment to the docks of New Jersey, where it would eventually be shipped to the UK. It ended up serving with the RAF until 1947.

The metal finish is highly accurate to that of freshly-produced P-51D/K's in 1944/45, with variations between various panels. This would eventually dull to mostly one uniform sheen and level of reflection over the fuselage, as the aircraft became actively involved in the field of operations. The wings are of course filled, sanded, and painted silver, just as done at the factory on all Mustang production. The bright lines on various panels around the fusleage and radiator scoop, is the result of acid-etching, in which acid was simply brushed on the metal to clean it, before spot welding was done in select locations. The only thing that separated a P-51K-15-NT from a P-51D-30-NT (NT stood for Dallas-produced Mustangs), was the propeller, which instead of being a Hamilton Standard unit, was an Aeroproducts unit, that also required a different prop spinner assembly. The canopy is of the late-model 'Dallas-type', which had a much more slick-back design than the more common 'Inglewood-type'.

by **Bomber12th** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:22 pm

And here is an un-edited screenshot of Warbirdsim's recreation of the P-51D-10-NA, "Butch Baby", as compared to the famous original colored photo of the aircraft (unfortunately I wasn't able to get the prop turned to just the right spot). : )

Note: The missing exhaust shrouds.

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:35 pm

Welcome to NZFF Bomber , think i,d better head across to your hanger , i mean stables

and get some pony paints .

by **Bomber12th** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:44 pm

Thank you Ian, though I'd imagine I'll only really be worth my stay here, if I can 'pony up' and produce some more Mustangs with a 'Kiwi' connection! : )

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:55 pm

Well have the Canterbury paint covered by Jan 'JK' the NZFF Banner above, but were a few other territorial squadrons after WWII , course have the 1970s Mobile pony

flightsim.to · by **jankees** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:47 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jul 10 2011,1:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What Jan , your moving to New Zealand

I wish....

No, it will be to Belgium.

John, you're here too! We meet all over the world!

by **Adamski** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:48 pm

jankees wrote:
QUOTE (jankees @ Jul 10 2011,6:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, it will be to Belgium.

Best of luck with your move! I think we have other members here from Belgium (Bugdani, maybe?).

Hope you get settled soon and we can see more of your repaints

by **Naki** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:24 pm

Welcome to NZFF John

"Butch Baby" looks stunning

Looking forward to your future products

by **AndrewJamez** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:59 pm

To you guys that have flown the new "little friends" package, what are the new features like. The modeled stwin stage supercharger for example? and what are the other new features?

by **Olderndirt** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:24 am

John -good to hear all that from the head horse's (mustang's) mouth. Your unedited shots are certainly better than mine - obviously knowing what you're about is a real plus.

AndrewJamez wrote:
QUOTE (AndrewJamez @ Jul 10 2011,2:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To you guys that have flown the new "little friends" package, what are the new features like. The modeled stwin stage supercharger for example? and what are the other new features?

All I know is it pulls about 67 inches on takeoff and you better have your s**t together when you open the throttle.

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