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Postby Olderndirt » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:41 am

How many aircraft companies started WW2 with a biplane and ended it with a jet?

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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:54 am

As far as fighting combatants are concerned .. There Can Only Be One rolleyes.gif , Ole Glos of the Gloster Clan cool.gif
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Postby Splitpin » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:52 am

Two classics , love them both. thumbup1.gif
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Postby steelsporran » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:37 pm

 
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How many aircraft companies started WW2 with a biplane and ended it with a jet?


Don't forget Heinkel, Dave. He50 and He162. 
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Postby Olderndirt » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:29 pm

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Don't forget Heinkel, Dave. He50 and He162. 
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:42 pm

Difference with Heinkel , the He50 was only in a training role and the Salamander never got to operational statis where as the Glosters were use at the front off WWII and in the last years in the front line shooting war .
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Postby steelsporran » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:00 pm

Have to disagree Ian. 

"The He 162 finally saw combat in mid-April. On 19 April, a captured Royal Air Force fighter pilot informed his German interrogators that he had been shot down by a jet fighter matching the description of the He 162. The Heinkel and its pilot were lost as well, shot down by an RAF Hawker Tempest while on approach. Though still in training, I./JG 1 had scored a number of kills beginning in mid-April, but had also lost 13 He 162s and 10 pilots. 10 of the aircraft were operational losses, caused by flameouts and sporadic structural failures. Only two of the 13 aircraft were actually shot down."


"In spring 1943, surviving He 50s were rounded up from training schools and delivered to night ground attack units operating on the Eastern Front. The He 50 was used to conduct night harassment sorties on the Eastern Front until September 1944, when the units were disbanded."
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:10 pm

I better source that myself .. the 50 very possible but 162 is something id have to research , love to see the combat report would be handy to check up on was one squadron , all known to me never was operational .
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Postby steelsporran » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:20 pm

OK Ian, I'll take Dave's question one step further: After the war one company built the Javelin the other a bubble-car, which was which?
Clue; the losing side wasn't allowed to build aircraft. biggrin.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:26 pm

Smarty pants answer , the winning side built a Javelin that looked like a bubble-car winkyy.gif
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Postby steelsporran » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:35 pm

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Smarty pants answer , the winning side built a Javelin that looked like a bubble-car winkyy.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif  That would have been even truer with a Messerschmitt bubble-car for a cockpit, they were tandem. 
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:48 pm

Quick check Tempest closet was 83 group 122wing at Volkel , 5 squadrons - 3, 56 , 80 , 274 and RNZAFs 486 . Found one only German jet unit never became operation at Leck on the Danish border , simply had no fuel , ill find the gruppen ID on that one .
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:58 pm

He162 , Around 265 had been built with well over 150 had flown none reached operational status , the Staffel Captain Oberluetnant Erich Demuth of 3 staffel on the newly built 1JG/1 at Leck with 50 on strength , his personal aircraft carried 16 victory,s but all been done in other types , fuel and supply shortage .
Publication Dr Alfred Price , The Luftwaffe Data Book .

Ill see what i can dig up on the on the He50 , got a good book here by Jochen Prien , a must for WWII fans , lotta data ... be interesting research cool.gif
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