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Postby steelsporran » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:13 am

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I know the Phonetic Alphabet which pilots use from A to Z,


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Postby ZK-LGD » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:25 am

The letters are reproduced in Gordon Ogilvie's "The Riddle of Richard Pearse - The story of New Zealand's pioneer aviator and inventor", Reed, 100th Anniversary Edition, 1973, 2003, (pp. 214-220) but I also have them both photocopied from fiche when I was doing my Master's research back in 2003.
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Postby zk2704 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:56 am

Well guys you were right, I am not a aviation expert, but just a enthusiast in Aviation, Doug, I readed your PM and I was thinking that I had to stop posting posts that are like what moderators post, it is a breach of rule no.4 which is that I should not impersonate other members on this forum.

Although, I have a strong interest in Flightsim and Aviation, It needs some 10 years of experience as a pilot, air traffic controller and any other job which involves Aviation to be an "expert" in Aviation.

I apologize for the inconvenience caused to you members by posting that post in anger, it is also a breach of rule no.6 which is that I don't post in anger

Even in the future, then working as a Air Traffic Controller at the NZAA Tower then I will gain experience that would lead me to be an "expert" in Aviation OR if I gain a pilot's license then going to the Auckland Aero Club based at Ardmore and fly some Cessna planes or others then I would gain experience, Even in Flightsim, although I have 2 and a half years of experience in Flightsim can it make me gain experience to be an "expert" in Aviation???

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Postby Dash8captain » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:47 pm

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Well guys you were right, I am not a aviation expert, but just a enthusiast in Aviation, Doug, I readed your PM and I was thinking that I had to stop posting posts that are like what moderators post, it is a breach of rule no.4 which is that I should not impersonate other members on this forum.

Although, I have a strong interest in Flightsim and Aviation, It needs some 10 years of experience as a pilot, air traffic controller and any other job which involves Aviation to be an "expert" in Aviation.

I apologize for the inconvenience caused to you members by posting that post in anger, it is also a breach of rule no.6 which is that I don't post in anger

Even in the future, then working as a Air Traffic Controller at the NZAA Tower then I will gain experience that would lead me to be an "expert" in Aviation OR if I gain a pilot's license then going to the Auckland Aero Club based at Ardmore and fly some Cessna planes or others then I would gain experience, Even in Flightsim, although I have 2 and a half years of experience in Flightsim can it make me gain experience to be an "expert" in Aviation???

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Think about what your saying Zain - you need to define to yourself what an 'Aviation Expert' is. even if you become an ATC controller still wont make you an Aviation Expert, you may become an expert in your job, but 'Aviation' covers such a huge range of topics so realisticly Zain at 13yrs old its not possible to learn all there is to learn about avaition

Also 2020 is a hang of a long way ahead to have planned what you are going to be doing 8yrs from now, when I was your age I was already well btten by the avaiation bug and all i wanted to do was to fly for Air NZ, but now at 21 even though I would love the job the costs of getting into it makes it not worth it for me considering my job now is paying me extremely well

Life aint all about the job either winkyy.gif
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Postby AdrianPetford » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:47 am

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I have the book...."Richard Pearse and his Flying Machines, an anthology of research notes, essays and ideas." from the archives of C.G. Rodliffe, Auckland 2007.

A fascinating little edition full of plans, interviews, rare photos etc etc. Well worth looking for for those with "."an historic bent."

Having read it through a number of times, I also would not qualify as an expert.... wub.gif


I only met Geoff the once, when I was visiting my mate Chris (his son) but that was at the time Geoff was involved with the Pearse replica and it was fascinating to hear about. Little did I know then but Geoff had also worked for the experimental and research department at de Havilland during his working life back in the UK. How I wish I'd been able to ask him about that!

Geoff passed on two years ago at the grand old age of 96 and among his death notices was a message of remembrance from "The Pearse family of South Canterbury".
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Postby lowglow » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:29 am

I love this subject wish I had discovered this topic earlier and not 5min before I have to go to work
I have all of the books on Richard that I am aware of and the Riddle is the best except for maybe The Road To Kitty Hawk (Time Life Publication), I have not read this one yet just browsed through it and it looks very good.
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Postby Bazza » Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:55 am

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I only met Geoff the once, when I was visiting my mate Chris (his son) but that was at the time Geoff was involved with the Pearse replica and it was fascinating to hear about. Little did I know then but Geoff had also worked for the experimental and research department at de Havilland during his working life back in the UK. How I wish I'd been able to ask him about that!

Geoff passed on two years ago at the grand old age of 96 and among his death notices was a message of remembrance from "The Pearse family of South Canterbury".


The book itself gives the impression it was written by "an elderly gentleman." While the supplied content is fascinating it is poorly put together, tends to be repetitious and gives the
feeling that it needed a good proof reader to go over it. Having said that, it is still a little treasure...
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:13 am

When go through the list in that era , H J Pither , Percy Fisher , the famous- the Walsh Bros , George Bolt ( George was later consider the father of NZ aviation) and many others , Ive come to the conclusion most of us Kiwis where plane mad back then and today we are all still bloody plane mad winkyy.gif
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Postby zk2704 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:29 am

Well, those stories about Richard Pearse are very interesting, I had found a very interesting book when I was at primary school back in 2006, when NZFF was founded by Andrew (Trolly) it was "Where New Zealand Touches The World", it was published in 2003, which was 100 years since the Wright Brothers' first powered flight then, when I was at kindergarten, that book is about the history of Auckland Airport (NZAA/AKL) and Mangere Aerodrome which was transformed into our current Auckland Airport, even it featured back around 1911, the New Zealand flight school was founded in that time the rural Mission Bay, Even then it featured an airshow of the Wright Flyer at the Auckland Domain, the seaplane era by TEAL (which became our current Air New Zealand), Charles Kingsford Smith's famous Trans-Tasman crossing in 1928, which was the beginning of aviation at Mangere, then Union Airways was formed and they flew out of both Whenuapai (that time it was Auckland's main airport) and Mangere Aerodrome then in 1936, Jean Batten arrived on her aircraft from the UK flying solo, then Mangere Aerodrome came to fame, However in World War II, it was taken over by the RNZAF naming it RNZAF base Mangere then it returned to civil operations after the war, then in 1947, Union Airways became NAC (National Airways Corporation), in 1956, it was chosen as the perfect site for the new Auckland Airport because of it's isolation from major built up areas then construction of the new Auckland Airport began in 1958, sadly in 1963, NAC Flight 441 crashed into the Kaimai Ranges while en route to Tauranga from Auckland's Whenuapai Airport, in 1965, construction of Auckland Airport was completed and all comercial services were moved to the new Auckland Airport from Whenuapai and Whenuapai became a sole Military Base, in Auckland Anniversary 1966, there was a Grand opening Pageant held at Auckland Airport, Luckly it opened just in time for the arrival of Air New Zealand's first DC-8s, in 1977, a new international terminal was built and was named in honour of Jean Batten, in 1978, NAC merged into Air New Zealand to form the domestic side of the airline, in 1979, very sadly Air New Zealand Flight 901, a DC-10 crashed into Mount Erebus while on a Antartic Sightseeing Flight, Auckland Airport was it's origin for that flight, in 1982, Jean batten dies aged 73 after a dog bite and her wound became infected, in 2001, Ansett ceased operations while under ownership by Air New Zealand and it suffered a $1.4 billion loss and was in a brink of collapse, but the NZ Government brought up an $885 million rescue pack to Air New Zealand, in 2009, Auckland Airport was the first airport in NZ to recieve A380 flights by Emirates, As of 2013, All of Emirates' routes in and out of Auckland are operated with A380 aircraft.


This was all which I know about the history of Aviation at Auckland and Mangere expanding from 1911 to the present day.

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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:10 pm

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This was all which I know about the history of Aviation at Auckland

Phooey , better than reading a newspaper or watching PMs on the TV news ... that last sentence tho , sorted reminded me of a bus stop bench , fella's name was "Forest Gump' laugh.gif
Well that about cover,s the Auckland history smile.gif
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