NZFF

by **Naki** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:03 pm

Rumour floating around that the RNZAf is signing a contract tomorrow for new Texans (maybe they will be called Harvards in N Z like the Canadians do) replacing the CT 4 Es

by **AlisterC** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:00 pm

Exciting! Look forward to some news tomorrow

Thanks for heads up

by **deeknow** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:05 pm

Wow cool news, great machines, saw their demo at wan aka last year when it was doing the world tour

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:28 pm

Rumour's .. , weapons capable for the COIN help the troops is and would be possible or that type off training .. wonder why the change of heart .. Rumour's and politics caused the lost of any real tactical airborne strike .. talk has been on the table for a couple of years so again why the change of heart or maybe and would not be a bad idea have that company in Hamilton build .. Just a Rumour ..

THO I'd would be pleased ... its not April yet !

by **deeknow** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:41 pm

Here's a pic I took on the day...

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:58 pm

Great photo Dean, wonder how come the press/media have not picked up on the deal ? .. course you in Hamilton .. and with PAC's ability it would be a real cue if these are Licence built for the region !

by **Splitpin** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:15 pm

They are a good looking machine ... but these are designed to train fast jet jocks arent they? , we dont have any, and i would think there are enough civi schools that could bring potential C-130 / P-3 candidates up to speed for much less cost.
Dont get me wrong , Im all for a big Air Force , but this seems a bit odd in light of the current situation. I would have thought that money (if it happens) would have been better spent on really establishing a coastal defense (Air) unit in line with our neighbors.
Our (NZ) maritime defense is very important , both economically and strategically, but mainly economic.... so it makes sense to pump money in that direction.
We have the KingAirs ..... why not use them as the conversion platform ? if their good enough to solo a CT-4 (by RNZAF over trained standards) Im sure they can get their heads around (with ground school) a turbine/multi course, and if not ..... send them to Oz to do it (Another option)

Just my thoughts.

by **Naki** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:56 pm

The King Airs and the CT-4s aren't the best to simulate low level flying (as per the Hercs and Orions in operational use) in NZ conditions plus the CT-4s are having structural (ie spar) problems...plus the Air Force is now a full glass and turboprop fleet which the CT-4s aren't.

Not a rumour deal is done 11 T-6s - first two this year.

http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=3

http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_embassy_ne...in/photostream/

by **HamiltonWest** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:17 am

The 1st Link seems to be 100% credible

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by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:09 am

Wing spar problems- crikey that explains why they are always close by to the Hamilton aeroplane hospital ... 11 only lets hope they increase the force.

by **Naki** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:25 am

Still no official announcement from the MOD,....

Marty...here's an article that describes why the RNZAF want Turboprop single trainers , better than my brief description above

http://www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/2012/0...single-solution

Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?

http://www.irissimulations.com.au/hangar/f...s-t-6a-texan-ii

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:35 am

MOD Probably to scared to say anything, I think what going to happen the Airforce maybe turning up to a local aero club near you .... and maybe go back to the days of old were they have to pay for their own flight training to be part of the Not so Permanent Air Force

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 25 2014,11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?

BUGGER Only have the Iris PC-9 ... Pooh!

by **Splitpin** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:05 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 25 2014,11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still no official announcement from the MOD,....

Marty...here's an article that describes why the RNZAF want Turboprop single trainers , better than my brief description above

http://www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/2012/0...single-solution

Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?

http://www.irissimulations.com.au/hangar/f...s-t-6a-texan-ii

Cheers Naki ..... remember when you and i "re built" the Air Force ? we almost lined up . Wow , this is exciting stuff.

by **Naki** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:00 pm

Haha yep...I had to find the thread and see what I had planned for trainers...I glad they went with my recommendations

....one short though!

There's some pics (and some official announcement links) of what the scheme looks like over at Wings over NZ. looks pretty cool in an all black scheme.

http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=6

14 Squadron is been reformed..wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?

It seems there will be no initial training on other types - the Texans will be used as an "all through training" platform.

by **HamiltonWest** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:43 am

Official Press Release Here:
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-pil...ontract-awarded

by **HamiltonWest** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:40 am

QUOTE

wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?[/quote]
Kiwi Black?
from HBC Press Release: Beechcraft Signs Contracts with Royal New Zealand Air Force for 11 T-6C Trainer Aircraft and Fully Integrated Flight Training Solution
The T-6C will replace the Pacific Aerospace CT-4E Airtrainer in the primary phase of the RNZAF Wings Course and FIC training role. It will replace the Beechcraft King Air B200 in the advanced phase of the Wings Course. The aircraft also will be flown by the RNZAFâ€™s formation aerobatic display team made up of senior instructor pilots.
http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/news/...ining-solution/

http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/files...Zealand-T6C.jpg

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