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Postby brent01 » Wed May 14, 2014 1:22 pm

Hi all i was wondering does anyone have fs Global real weather and what do you think of it. Many thanks, Brent... rolleyes.gif
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Postby s0cks » Thu May 15, 2014 1:27 pm

From what I have seen most recommend ActiveSky Next or Opus over FS Global.
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 15, 2014 1:33 pm

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From what I have seen most recommend ActiveSky Next or Opus over FS Global.

I wonder, the data we have only three weather positions in the NZ, least weather registered connected to real world flights - can Flight Sim reproduce , no it can't, so I guess some who uses FS Global in New Zealand is the only way to find out and how it compares .
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Postby AlisterC » Thu May 15, 2014 6:33 pm

Brent, you could try this one for free. Works really well in FSX (I use the Lite version but might try the full version again now it's been patched a few times)

http://www.fsrealwx.net/index.php/downloads/betas

Works for FS2004 too if you still use that.

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Postby emfrat » Thu May 15, 2014 6:56 pm

I have been using FSRealWXLite for a while and I like it...of course when you invite clouds into your sim, you can expect a drop in FPS. I usually look at MetService first, and I have always found it a good match, and the frame rate hit is not all that bad, considering this machine.
It gave me a nice haze effect a few days ago, which seemed consistent with the MetService info - I was flying WB-OH in the Garfield Beau, after I came across an RNZAF paint for it .

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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 15, 2014 8:26 pm

Nice Screen Mike, and really friendly aircraft to test the weather with, Dave's Beau-fighter is supreme cool.gif
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Postby brent01 » Thu May 15, 2014 9:02 pm

AlisterC wrote:
QUOTE (AlisterC @ May 15 2014,6:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brent, you could try this one for free. Works really well in FSX (I use the Lite version but might try the full version again now it's been patched a few times)

http://www.fsrealwx.net/index.php/downloads/betas

Works for FS2004 too if you still use that.

and Hi buddy! Miss you guys sad.gif


Hey cheers for that Al yeah we miss you down here too buddy :-)


emfrat wrote:
QUOTE (emfrat @ May 15 2014,6:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been using FSRealWXLite for a while and I like it...of course when you invite clouds into your sim, you can expect a drop in FPS. I usually look at MetService first, and I have always found it a good match, and the frame rate hit is not all that bad, considering this machine.
It gave me a nice haze effect a few days ago, which seemed consistent with the MetService info - I was flying WB-OH in the Garfield Beau, after I came across an RNZAF paint for it .




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Postby Fozzer » Thu May 15, 2014 9:21 pm

Every now and again, someone comes along to remind me about my many forgotten Flight Sim bits and bobs that I have stored in my "Programs Files" Folder....

..like "fsrealwx".... ohmy.gif ....

..even though its Shortcut is buried away somewhere on my overly-cluttered desktop!.... unsure.gif ...!

Just fired it up in today's, NORCAL flight....and it works fine!.... clapping.gif ...!

Paul...weathering the storm in Cal Central Valley!.... biggrin.gif ...!
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Postby mjrhealth » Thu May 15, 2014 10:20 pm

Used realwxx for quiet a while till ASN came along. RWX does a good job but not as nice as ASN.
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Postby Intrance » Fri May 16, 2014 2:08 am

FS Global Real Weather is the engine I prefer. Simple, clean, fast. Easier to use than Opus, better performance than ASN (in my experience). You can try it for free by the way, so you can always form your own opinion.
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Postby omitchell » Fri May 16, 2014 2:18 am

I'd like to see some comparison screenies taken with the available weather engines of various conditions
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Postby Intrance » Fri May 16, 2014 3:31 am

I have Opus, FS GRW and REX, can try to do some comparisons tonight (it's 17:30LT here). No promises, but if I remember I'll post some winkyy.gif.

Ok, I couldn't be bothered to do a lot... Just a single comparison at KJFK. All with the same weather report, which I of course forgot to save. So it's a very basic comparison, I'm sure there are more complete ones out on the web.

REX (no volumetric fog, REX needs an update for that to work properly in P3D 2.2):


FSGRW:


OPUS:


As I said, my personal preference is FSGRW. Just the most accurate and balanced depiction.

Some more from FSGRW:



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Postby omitchell » Fri May 16, 2014 10:52 am

Thanks Intrance, nice to see the comparisons there thumbup1.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 16, 2014 11:14 am

I still believe it wont produce the same affects as we get here in Christchurch with well known North West winds , regard to the sky and light affect and you also notice a change in people and attitudes, only one other place this happens in South America so I guess that is out off the question.
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Postby Intrance » Fri May 16, 2014 11:18 am

In the end, it does what's reported in the METAR. If the METAR reports a change in peoples attitudes, who knows winkyy.gif. FSGRW does include some local weather occurences, like winds around the rock of Gibraltar. And they're still building those kind of effects for places all over the world.
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 16, 2014 11:37 am

I think its the more dramatic sky affect that it comes with, the build up to orographic weather due to the lay of the land following the worlds weather .. rather a smooth slip inland its best describing way off putting it is putting a 500Km long X 8000ft wall in front of the global weather, hence the build up and unique winds and sky patterns.
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Postby s0cks » Fri May 16, 2014 12:21 pm

The great thing with Opus is that it also comes with a camera plugin that simulates vibrations and turbulence when in the cockpit - they used a real world accelerometer in different aircraft to measure such forces and to accurately depict them in FSX/P3D (well, as best you can in a sim). It does add another sense of immersion to flying. You can also setup custom cameras much like EZdok. So it's good value for $ imo.

And Opus is super easy to use - you just enter your destination and cruising altitude. Not sure it can get any easier.
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Postby emfrat » Fri May 16, 2014 9:35 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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I still believe it wont produce the same affects as we get here in Christchurch with well known North West winds , regard to the sky and light affect and you also notice a change in people and attitudes, only one other place this happens in South America so I guess that is out off the question.

That's why I bookmarked MetService, and the Earth.nullschool thingie with the animated wind map - still waiting for the conditions for a photo shoot. When I first tried FSRealWXLite, I got a 30-40kt crosswind at NZWB, so I took off in the Rapide, directly into it and was airborne in about fifty yards. The old DH was getting tossed all over the place, and I eventually got in to WN by just about dipping the wheels in the sea, and applying just enough power to lift me over the seawall before cutting the throttles and dropping about 3 feet onto the runway.
That's what sold me - in real life, the flight would have been cancelled, but when I pulled a swifty by taking off from the grass, the sim flight developed just as it would have in RW conditions. rolleyes.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 16, 2014 9:44 pm

Arr the fun things you ca do and not Kill ya self biggrin.gif
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Postby emfrat » Fri May 16, 2014 10:12 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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Arr the fun things you ca do and not Kill ya self biggrin.gif


Well, I was dead chuffed to find I could keep things more or less level , on such instruments as the DH89 has, and I nearly died larrfing at getting away with that totally hooligan landing plane.gif pirate.gif
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