MH370 on hold.

[Splitpin]

According to the RNZ news tonight , the search is on hold ...... its seems the aircraft isn't there .... some other man made device may have been pinging .

[Ian Warren]

It went that way ... what way .. that direction . over there just over that big .. arr ya just missed it ... there it is just there ... there it is just over that wave .. no no no NOoo don't wave at me over there ... look can't you see what direction I'm pointing ... its over there ..

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 29 2014,8:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It went that way ... what way .. that direction . over there just over that big .. arr ya just missed it ... there it is just there ... there it is just over that wave .. no no no NOoo don't wave at me over there ... look can't you see what direction I'm pointing ... its over there ..

Whats going on with this thing ? Had they found something from the Air France one within this time frame ? I cant imagine how those people with family on board are feeling ... bloody awful .
So at the moment any theory is valid .... i still think they should be looking north despite all the "evidence" to the contrary ....which has added up to nothing.

[J7G]

I think they should start to think about winding the search up entirely. Sometimes in life things remain a mystery. Like women.

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (J7G @ May 30 2014,12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think they should start to think about winding the search up entirely. Sometimes in life things remain a mystery. Like women.

"Like women" very true .... we (men) will never win .... but i agree J7G , Its sad , but its gone , so lets move on.

[omitchell]

This search has been a dog's breakfast from the beginning. If they thought it was in the Indian Ocean at all, the US Navy has a carrier group operating there which they could have called upon for added eyes in the sky and radar, not to mention subs. On top of that, Google has ultra hi-res satellites photographing pretty much every inch of the planet, could have used those, but they didn't call on any assistance for 2 weeks after the damned thing went missing. It might as well be re-starting the search for Jimmy Hoffa's briefcase again.

The latest setback with the pings was as they have said more than likely radar pings from other vessels in the area. That automatically tells me they didn't sterilize the area by stopping unnecessary radar pinging whilst conducting the important searches so they ended up with all the other search vessels contaminating the scene and sending false returns and false hope. Now the batteries are long dead (30 days under normal temps but remember cold temps drains batteries faster) so chances were the black boxes weren't pinging even when they started claiming they were getting pings)

Unfortunately the Malaysian Gov't and Civil Aviation Authority has no experience in dealing with an air disaster and automatically should have deferred the case to the NTSB (Being an American built aircraft) who have a lot of experience dealing with crashes and other incidents and the FBI (For obvious other reasons) but instead tried to save face as is the culture in Asia and handled it themselves, giving out a lot of misinformation and red herrings which just caused completely unnecessary stress and anguish for the families of those on board.

This is a prime example of how NOT to handle an air disaster...

[Splitpin]

Well said .... well said indeed , no more from me , Cheers Owen.

[Ian Warren]

Old saying , Its a bloody big sky .. a good example , is the many missing aircraft in the south west SI . planned routes but gone ... no trace at all .

[Dean]

Pinging from the SOSUS underwater detectors to track submarine movements?

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Dean @ May 30 2014,5:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pinging from the SOSUS underwater detectors to track submarine movements?

As amazing as that is , it Dose not work to well with inert objects ... many variable with deep water sonar, one good example is they pick up on planet movements 'earthquakes' a goodie even water temp's , in saying that the sensor s have to picture of the previous .... once how ever and where the plane come down ... little bit like the movie 'Red October' .

I think and again did mention this , in today's world we can see aircraft movements - if everyone has to were a safety belt , a safety jacket .. why and it should be mandatory for an civil aircraft to carry a transmitter that can be followed - great for the plane spotters , a beacon that cannot be turned off .

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 30 2014,10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Old saying , Its a bloody big sky .. a good example , is the many missing aircraft in the south west SI . planned routes but gone ... no trace at all .

What about that little fella gone missing up north .... cant remember the type , but just a few weeks ago . Even had a P-3 looking ..... nothing .

QUOTE (Dean @ May 30 2014,4:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pinging from the SOSUS underwater detectors to track submarine movements?

Could have been Dean , on CNN (Trust them or not) they said the frequency was not the same as a "black box" , but i suppose in this case , a ping is a ping , so check it out. .... wasn't going to say anymore , but there you go , i did.

[SUBS17]

QUOTE (Dean @ May 30 2014,4:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Pinging from the SOSUS underwater detectors to track submarine movements?

That's passive, not active.

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ May 31 2014,8:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's passive, not active.

Thanks SUB ..... So we can scratch that theory (sosus) which i had never heard of , thank you Dean (i learn something every day) . Which leaves us , yet again with the question ..... where is MH370 ?
I still maintain ..... look North .

[jeansy]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ May 30 2014,7:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What about that little fella gone missing up north .... cant remember the type , but just a few weeks ago . Even had a P-3 looking ..... nothing .


Could have been Dean , on CNN (Trust them or not) they said the frequency was not the same as a "black box" , but i suppose in this case , a ping is a ping , so check it out. .... wasn't going to say anymore , but there you go , i did.

the first pings found were by HMS ECHO, and boeing confirmed the sing as the box however the pings where found late march, the box was only fitted with a 30 day battery and the 30 days ended on the 7th apr

if they are going back to the original location, best of luck to them, 6-7m waves and 40knt winds on a good day, its going to be a long and slow process scanning the bottom

[SUBS17]

They'll need submarines to map the entire floor and search for it.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Jun 3 2014,11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

They'll need submarines to map the entire floor and search for it.

Even then you going to want to know the general area by now there will be little and nothing left but engines. good example it took three weeks to find a 809 ft long (246mt) on a perfectly flat bottom ocean , the near intact 25.500 ton USS Yorktown three miles down and they knew were it was, were finally sunk during the Battle of Midway.

[s0cks]

Surely some stuff would float. An entire plane and no floating debris? At the very least something must turn up on a coastline somewhere you would have thought.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (s0cks @ Jun 3 2014,12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Surely some stuff would float. An entire plane and no floating debris? At the very least something must turn up on a coastline somewhere you would have thought.

That depends on how it went down its ALT and the angle of attack and impact - possible one reason they will not see it and who's to say that is where it stopped in the first place - .... ocean moves things in so many different ways - another example of what maybe left was an MD/80/DC9 type impacted the ground and made the thing left looked like confetti.

Some aircraft come down left in some sort solid piece because pilots are doing there job and trying save the aircraft or whats left may sycamore down after maybe a bomb or decompression of sorts leaving evident BUT the thing is they knew were the fella driving it was going in the first place.