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by **cowpatz** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:42 am

Oct 20, 2014.

Should have gone around IMHO.

by **omitchell** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:47 am

Normal landing for the charter flights at Madeira. Gibraltar can get just as fun

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:12 am

Oooooo that was a goodie

by **JoeM** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:51 pm

Totally agree, right at about 28 seconds, just no control of the aircraft at all!

Easy to say with a fresh CPL no doubt, but even so, sticking to your guns in that situation flicks from indecision to macho........

by **omitchell** » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:43 pm

JoeM wrote:
QUOTE (JoeM @ Oct 24 2014,9:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Totally agree, right at about 28 seconds, just no control of the aircraft at all!

Easy to say with a fresh CPL no doubt, but even so, sticking to your guns in that situation flicks from indecision to macho........

As I said it's normal approach for the charter companies like Tui/Thompson, Monarch and low cost carriers like Ryanair and easyJet etc into places like Madeira, Gibraltar etc. Go arounds generally don't happen to save a few bucks on gas and keep them as close to time as possible...

by **cowpatz** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:51 am

omitchell wrote:
QUOTE (omitchell @ Oct 24 2014,11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I said it's normal approach for the charter companies like Tui/Thompson, Monarch and low cost carriers like Ryanair and easyJet etc into places like Madeira, Gibraltar etc. Go arounds generally don't happen to save a few bucks on gas and keep them as close to time as possible...

Not quite so sure of that statement but I understand the basic thrust of your comments. This other video from the same chap shows quite a few go arounds from Madeira and with what appears to be less severe situations. With todays FOQA (Flight Operations Quality Assurance) monitoring, these events would trigger a flag in the system as being outside of set parameters and would be an unstable approach. Although with most airlines the data is de-identified a serious breach would lead to a "facilitated intervention" and perhaps tea and bikkies with the boss.

by **Splitpin** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:06 am

Great stuff CP . Some pretty high pucker ratings in that lot .

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:25 am

Some Gorgeous bits off footage there, love the capture off the wing flex as they try a push the aircraft to the tarmac, give an idea study the waves breaking on the coastline/cliffs in the distance, Ole Jerry - aka 'Happytraveller' posted many photos from here, this airport, strange we have not heard much from him for over a year, ..... I could here a wife saying "Honey! why did we book a holiday here ?"

by **SA227** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:45 pm

Exciting stuff!

The professional pilots were the ones that recognised it had the potential to hurt and got out of there, the 737 driver was just plain lucky.

by **Charl** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:13 pm

Some nailbiting stuff... suddenly dropping 50ft over the threshold certainly calls for a rapid judgement call!
I am wondering what effect those sexy big winglets have on landing in these conditions.

by **cowpatz** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:32 pm

Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Oct 25 2014,2:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am wondering what effect those sexy big winglets have on landing in these conditions.

Detrimental I would say. Something with the wingspan of a F104 Starfighter would be better!

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:30 pm

cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Oct 25 2014,2:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Detrimental I would say. Something with the wingspan of a F104 Starfighter would be better!

And with the lines/words to air traffic control ... " Steady .. steady .. I'm going in , I'm going in , Wodger - almost there .. perfectly lined up tower "

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