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Postby cowpatz » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:30 am

Looking not too shabby and with an NZ paint too! Hope it works in P3D as I could spend a wee bit of time in this machine.

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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:41 am

The NZpost is a 500 series, doing a bit of arm twisting to get that 1.5 meter plug put in, I would say the team would probably do it, one off the most pleasing things and surprised it has taken so long ... was the Fokker Friendship, looking at that I would say its going to be exceptional.
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Postby Adrian Brausch » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:41 am

need a version with wing tanks for the RNZAF aircraft !
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:10 am

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need a version with wing tanks for the RNZAF aircraft !

Already tried to get the details for the wing tanks but when the RNZAF 100s were sold all the details and spec's for the tanks went with them and everything else that was not bolted down, I have tried to dig up some details and sent mails to others as the tanks and design were specifically made for the F-27 only.
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Postby deeknow » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:55 pm

Sweet !!! .. definitely in for this.. flew on them a few times when I was a kid, remember the abundant kerosene fumes and distinctive whistle of the Darts
Be a cool add-on for the sim actually, a Kerosene dispenser smile.gif
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Postby johnkiwi » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:15 am

I spent many hours working on these in the early 80's, RNZAF conversions, DCA & DCB (Cal Flight) as well as the run of the mill ANZ fleet. Recall doing the wiring installation on one aircraft for the RNZAF wing tanks. A few good test flights too!
Definiteky one for me to have in my hangar.
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:03 am

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I spent many hours working on these in the early 80's, RNZAF conversions, DCA & DCB (Cal Flight) as well as the run of the mill ANZ fleet. Recall doing the wiring installation on one aircraft for the RNZAF wing tanks. A few good test flights too!

Amazing the amount of times I saw the calibration flight parked in the old SAFE air spot and the other side Mount Cook hanger, the aircraft seemed to live in Christchurch.
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Postby Roelio » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:26 am

Yeah Dutch pride! My grandfather used to fly these planes a lot! He worked for Philips Electronics which had a fleet of 5 Friendships. He really loved them, even though he isn't particularly interested in airplanes. Good to see it come to FSX together with the F-50 from Coolsky/McPhat!
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Postby Tupolev114 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:52 pm

I have one worry, if the DC8 was anything to go by will this be the same???? i hope not that would be rather disappointing, i got both dc8 products and lots of bugs that just aren't getting fixed please not with the f27
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Postby cowpatz » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:58 pm

Yes that is a valid concern. Could be worse, Wilco could be doing it smile.gif I have been put off the DC8.....which is probably a good thing as I have too many aircraft and so little time to fly them in the sim.
Fraser McKay's panel for FS9 is excellent and the unique Dart/prop combination is well modeled. It will be interesting to see if JF have captured this same nuance.
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Postby BendyFlyer » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:38 am

I agree with you Tupelov, the JF DC-8 is a pain, so much good work and so many very very annoying bugs, stopped me buying the 50-70 series and as I still get feeds from the JF forum on the issues nothing much has been fixed properly. I can live with the clunky autopilot and some other stuff but the AIR files is all out of whack and it behaves like a C172 on the ground not a big heavy DC-8. The F27 looks good, lots of eye candy but these older turboprops and jets were a lot more complex than their computerised modern descendents and there are a lot of new designers or folk who have a real problem coming to grips with the subtleties or complicated systems of these aeroplanes, they were analogue not digital and the pilot had to master the systems and some needed a 3 person crew to operate to cope with the knob twiddling and lever pulling etc.
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:43 am

The Friendship is one aircraft that equals a DC-3 in many respects except not being a tail dragger said about that aircraft "any ham fisted pilot could land it in a cabbage patch" same was said about the F-27, the Dart was consider as old farm machinery style engine making it so reliable and reason they lasted.
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Postby SA227 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:39 am

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"any ham fisted pilot could land it in a cabbage patch" same was said about the F-27[/quote]
Oh great, now I'm even more embarrassed about my first crosswind landing! Fortunately the cabbage patch was long and wide.
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:51 am

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Oh great, now I'm even more embarrassed about my first crosswind landing! Fortunately the cabbage patch was long and wide.

biggrin.gif A quote from many a pilot I knew years ago and looks they seemed to have reed the very same literature and books, one thing pointed out, Steve, preferred to fly the F-27 and he was rated on the HS748 and DC-3 into Hokitika and did a couple trips into Mount Cook, hes retired I have been trying to get a hold him for a whiles, moved away I guess.
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Postby waka172rg » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:23 am

One thing is this model will be super with the team they have got

Experience ranging from f-27 pilots and RW pilots, LAMEs that
Worked on the f-27, people that have countless of information on
The machine and Fsx. Including some NZ'ers.
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Postby Splitpin » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:40 pm

Im looking forward to the F-27 , and as has been said above , i hope its a step up from DC-8 . Not holding my breath that I'll only get the wings first , and the rest a week later laugh.gif
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Postby SeanTK » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:10 am

Looking forward to the F-27 as well. Does anyone know the planned livery list?
I see NZ Post, NLM (like KLM?), and British Midland in the sceenshots. Any others included?
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:33 am

Looking on the development page a few thing need to be updated, NZpost aircraft were 500 series so that is not mentioned as yet as only posted as 200/300 series, be interesting to see the updates later on.
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Postby cowpatz » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:42 pm

Remember the 50-50-90 rule. Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong!

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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:17 pm

Maybe an excuse for people to really hook into this months Screen Shot Competition, soon as Just Flight show's the packaging I means its really not to far away.
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