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Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby TheSkyWhale » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:39 pm

Hello all.
After countless hours using ORBX's NZ scenery series I ran into the first of my problems today. As I was approaching NZAA I noticed long black lines infinitely extending from the tower to my aircraft.
Various other forums have not been able to supply an answer so here I am.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby toprob » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:03 pm

That looks like a shadow of a non-manifold model. 'Manifold' means the geometry is full-enclosed, if it has gaps then FSX can't render the shadow properly.

I don't know how you'd fix it, though.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby Ian Warren » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:16 pm

No fix for it unless ORBX looks at it , it is a break in the model... I pointed this out when NI was first released and was one off my replies removed , there are other breaks and model bleeds in the ORBX NZ.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby toprob » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:19 pm

Yeah, I've just dusted off FTX NZNI, and there are a couple of these 'broken' objects at NZAA, although they show up as very narrow lines on mine. Hard to pin down, it looks like it could be coming from one of the dishes on the terminal roof?
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby TheSkyWhale » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:40 pm

Ian Warren wrote:No fix for it unless ORBX looks at it , it is a break in the model... I pointed this out when NI was first released and was one off my replies removed , there are other breaks and model bleeds in the ORBX NZ.


Thanks for the explanation, might give the ORBX forums a go and try my luck. It seems weird as these lines were not present before and only appeared when I was trying out anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering settings.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby Ian Warren » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:31 pm

You may also find them coming into Wellington , specific was a fishing trawler , so it maybe borrowed models or freely given.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby scaber » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:47 am

Interesting, this doesn't appear in my Auckland in Orbx NZNI. Do you have any other scenery loaded for this area? Regarding Ian's suggestion, I can't say that I've noticed in the Wellington area either and I do spend a fair bit of time flying around there.

Maybe I'm lucky, but it seems to suggest to me that some other add on is the likely cause of this.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby toprob » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:05 am

This only happens when you have 'ground shadows' turned on, although Orbx do recommend that you don't use this setting, which gets around the problem nicely.
Luckily Prepar3D doesn't have this problem, which is great as I have a bit of a shadow fixation...
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby Ian Warren » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:21 am

One thing I always kept switched on , never thought off the FSX 'default ground shadow switch' , it dose get annoying those beams like lasers getting aimed at you.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby TheSkyWhale » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:17 pm

toprob wrote:This only happens when you have 'ground shadows' turned on, although Orbx do recommend that you don't use this setting, which gets around the problem nicely.
Luckily Prepar3D doesn't have this problem, which is great as I have a bit of a shadow fixation...


THANK YOU!!! Will try this fix later today.
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby scaber » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:41 pm

toprob wrote:This only happens when you have 'ground shadows' turned on, although Orbx do recommend that you don't use this setting, which gets around the problem nicely.
Luckily Prepar3D doesn't have this problem, which is great as I have a bit of a shadow fixation...


Aha, well spotted Rob.

I turned ground shadows back on and found a very thin hairline in that location, barely visible so certainly not a concern unless I stop exactly where the line passes through the aircraft. Now I'm wondering if the fact that I'm using DX10 and Steves fixer software might be reducing this affect for me - any ideas?
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Re: Black Lines with ORBX NZ scenery

Postby toprob » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:51 pm

I was thinking along those lines, Greg, but I see a couple of fine lines too, and I don't use DX10. Somewhere at the back of my mind (way at the back, amongst the cobwebs) is that this was tweaked in a SP.
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