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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:40 pm

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Ian Warren wrote:Paul do what I did , kick start my CB350 years back .. was ... old and classic , one kick .. two Kicks .. almost Three Kicks , bloody spark plug shot out the cylinder head and thru the roof of the garage ... I did not tell another Rob about this ... but boy !

:lol: I still have the mark on my shin where my Ducati Mach 1 took exception to something I said about starting :wacko:

Arr the fun .. I did wonder why the bike was loosing power sometimes .. never thought of metallurgy and its failures back then :rolleyes:
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Fozzer » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:46 pm

emfrat wrote:
Ian Warren wrote:Paul do what I did , kick start my CB350 years back .. was ... old and classic , one kick .. two Kicks .. almost Three Kicks , bloody spark plug shot out the cylinder head and thru the roof of the garage ... I did not tell another Rob about this ... but boy !

:lol: I still have the mark on my shin where my Ducati Mach 1 took exception to something I said about starting :wacko:


My 1948, 1,000cc Vincent HRD Rapide, vee-twin, was the killer for kick-starting escapades with the ignition too far advanced!

Then the Japanese invented Push-button starting!...bless-'em!.... :D ....!

My little Yamaha RX-S 100 has a kick-starter (no flat battery problems).....but there again...she's only a 98cc 2-stroke!... :bow: ...!

Next exercise...

...kick-starting a 1938 Harley Davidson Knuckle-head.... :unsure: ...!

Paul.... :lol: .... :lol: ...!
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:45 pm

That's all ya need , a little bike for the shopping .. some reason .. ya can't kill em ! they just keep going and going and going and going .. friggen brilliant pieces of motor cycle mechanics .
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby emfrat » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:51 pm

Heh heh - this has developed into one of the more successful topic hijacks of recent years :lol: :thumbup:
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:06 pm

emfrat wrote:Heh heh - this has developed into one of the more successful topic hijacks of recent years :lol: :thumbup:

I don't know many threads that don't get hi-jacked ... if ya got the interest peoples reading .. LETS SWING THE PROP
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby cowpatz » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:21 pm

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cowpatz wrote:It's bad enough prop swing my 110cc RC model with its 27" prop. A welding glove comes in handy


That's a bigger donk than the one Paul's little bike. I would be down the camping and fishing shop, getting one of those chain-mail gloves to save fingers from over-enthusiastic filleting :blush:


The gloves are only there to keep your severed fingers in one place rather than having to look through the grass for them.
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Fozzer » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:07 pm

Ian Warren wrote:That's all ya need , a little bike for the shopping .. some reason .. ya can't kill em ! they just keep going and going and going and going .. friggen brilliant pieces of motor cycle mechanics .


The Clean Air Brigade have killed off all those lovely 2-stroke bikes now.
No longer imported into Britain.... :( ...!

...yet fire and smoke breathing Radial Aero Motors are still allowed... :lol: ....!

My little Yamaha 2-stroke is real FUN to ride...98cc and 75 MPH, (slight tail-wind), always guaranteed to bring a big smile to my face!

Yamaha RD 500 V-4 2 stroke.... :rolleyes: ...!

Paul....Stroking my Yamaha....in the company of "swingers".... :wink2: ...!
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Charl » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:25 pm

27 inches... 'strewth, better go get your Part 102 application filled out, then.
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:05 pm

Charl wrote:27 inches... 'strewth, better go get your Part 102 application filled out, then.

That is a whooping great propeller for a model aircraft, I sort of understand prop starting in the early years , as we all know , the thing that strikes me on a later aircraft .. and the death UMM , what was the rush if one could not start the engine ... we won't no that now , who s to say it was not a Suicide ! .. logic
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby towerguy » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:24 pm

I remember when the big topic of discussion at the time was whether it was better to swing a prop from in front or from behind. The idea being that if you are behind and the engine fires into life only to find the brakes were forgotten, was that the aircraft shot away and left you safely behind and not scrambling in front. Done it from both sides and found it nice to get a hand grip on the strut of the Cessna while swinging with the other - takes a strong arm though. Still got both hands so didn't get it too wrong.
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:57 pm

towerguy wrote:Still got both hands so didn't get it too wrong.

My hands and eyeballs are the primary to look after .. without them I'd shoot myself !
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby cowpatz » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:18 pm

towerguy wrote:I remember when the big topic of discussion at the time was whether it was better to swing a prop from in front or from behind. The idea being that if you are behind and the engine fires into life only to find the brakes were forgotten, was that the aircraft shot away and left you safely behind and not scrambling in front. Done it from both sides and found it nice to get a hand grip on the strut of the Cessna while swinging with the other - takes a strong arm though. Still got both hands so didn't get it too wrong.


I never liked the fact that when swing from behind your head bowed down towards the moving prop. I always swing down and under then walk away. Just swing.......and walk away.
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:25 pm

cowpatz wrote:Just swing.......and walk away.

:D .... and :lol:
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby emfrat » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:36 pm

In one of Mac Job's books about accidents, he comments on how a prop should be swung. He says the key thing is to stand so that if the engine fires unexpectedly, or you lose your footing, you will fall flat on your face on the ground, not into the prop.
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Fozzer » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:43 pm

emfrat wrote:In one of Mac Job's books about accidents, he comments on how a prop should be swung. He says the key thing is to stand so that if the engine fires unexpectedly, or you lose your footing, you will fall flat on your face on the ground, not into the prop.


...I think I would get someone else to do it.... :rolleyes: ....!

Paul.... :D ....!
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:01 am

Fozzer wrote:
emfrat wrote:In one of Mac Job's books about accidents, he comments on how a prop should be swung. He says the key thing is to stand so that if the engine fires unexpectedly, or you lose your footing, you will fall flat on your face on the ground, not into the prop.


...I think I would get someone else to do it.... :rolleyes: ....!

Most off them did, that is while a lotta ground crew where pretty much armless ... CLEAR THE PROP ! :P
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Fozzer » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:24 am

Ian Warren wrote:
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...I think I would get someone else to do it.... :rolleyes: ....!

Most off them did, that is while a lotta ground crew where pretty much armless ... CLEAR THE PROP ! :P


...and they say Prop Swinging is a (h)armless occupation!.... :o ....!

Paul.... :lol: ....!
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Re: The perils of prop swinging

Postby Ian Warren » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:29 am

My limbs are in rapture :unsure: ..or least swinging around somewhere ... hang on somewhere :unsure:
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