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NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Nzeddy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:28 pm

Hello,

Using P3D v3.4. Both autogen sliders fully maxed but there's hardly any autogen showing.

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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:50 pm

Hmm, that can't be right...
Your custom autogen is missing, which suggests one of two things:
a) your Vector Land Class Libraries are not installed or not active; or
b) Autogen Configuration Merger Tool, which is installed with the VLC Libraries update, isn't installed or working properly.

Do you remember the VLC Libraries updating during the Dunedin install?
Did you see a small message window warning that your simulator would need to restart to see the autogen configuration changes when you first ran the simulator?
Did the install go as shown in the manual?

Just to explain how this works, which might give you a clue to what has happened -- Autogen Configuration Merger Tool (ACMT) installs as part of the VLC Libraries install, inserts an entry into exe.xml, and runs itself to actually merge any autogen definitions it finds in any addon scenery. Ideally this would set everything up during the install process, but there are reasons why it might not, the simple reason is that you didn't allow VLC Libraries installer to edit the scenery.cfg, so it didn't know that there were new definitions.

If this is the case, and you activated the Libraries manually, then ACMT will merge the definitions the first time you run the simulator, but warn you that the simulator would need to be restarted to see the new autogen.

Generally, tools like FTX Central will simply replace the autogen definitions with its own, which removes any non-Orbx definitions, but ACMT is designed to put them back whenever you run the simulator.

So getting the autogen might be as simple as restarting the simulator, or you might need to figure out why ACMT isn't doing its job, so give some thought to my questions above.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Ian Warren » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:20 pm

Been a long day here, I must look into this tomorrow morning B-)
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:29 pm

Eddy, looking at your screenshots a bit closer, you do have the Libraries activated, or at least a version of the Libraries. Now we just need to make sure that it updated to 1.49.
But more likely ACMT isn't doing its job for some reason.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Nzeddy » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:12 am

Hello,

I don't remember ACMT installing after the RealNZ NZDN installer but I just installed it manually. I did see some more autogen pop up after that (see screenshot).

VLC libraries are enabled in the scenery library. (the one that came with the installer)

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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:01 pm

I'd better get my ass into gear and get this Dunners , I've only VLC installed so may shed some light onto this. few more things I have to do here so be later this afternoon.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:20 pm

Ok, I can still only see default autogen (pine scrub/poplars etc) and no custom autogen.
I went through the info I had on ACMT, and there is something which you should check. In the ACMT beta, a couple of people had problems with the path in their exe.xml file, but I assumed that this was now fixed. Maybe it might still be an issue...
The problem was that ACMT sometimes put a relative path in the exe.xml file, rather than the full path to AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe. So you should open exe.xml and have a look at the actual path.
You can find the exe.xml file here:
%appdata%\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3
Just type or copy/paste the above line into file explorer.

Open exe.xml (I don't recall if it will always open by clicking on it, so it might be necessary to open it in notepad or something similar.)
Look for the Path entry. Make sure that it has the actual drive:\folder where AutogenConfigurationMerger is installed.

On my system, with a default install location, this is the proper path entry:
<Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\SceneryDesign.org\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe</Path>

Remember that if you do manage to get this fixed somehow, the first time you run Prepar3d you still won't see the new autogen, as although the merger tool adds the descriptions, the sim is already running, so it won't actually use the new descriptions until the next time it runs. This is normally a minor problem, as there shouldn't be too many times when it finds missing descriptions, unless you install FTX scenery on a daily basis...
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Naki » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:21 pm

Having an issue as well. All my Tairei airport buildings have disappeared. It was there in the beta but last flight in the beta they had all gone. I then downloaded and installed the latest copy and still no luck. Any ideas?
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Nzeddy » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:30 pm

I got it to work. I had to manually add in the ACMT entries in the exe.xml file:
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>AutogenConfigurationMerger</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>G:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Godzone\OtherInstallers\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

Much better. :D

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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby BruceR » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:09 pm

I have the same problem as Nzeddy had. My Taieri Plains looks the same as his in the first two screenshots in this topic.

I had no Godzone entry in my exe.xml file so I have manually added what Nzeddy did (with the path being modified to suit my default location of the Godzone folder). Here’s a copy of my whole exe.xml file ………

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>EZdok camera addon</Name>
<Disabled>True</Disabled>
<Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\EZCA\EZCA.exe</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document>
<Launch.Addon>
<Name>AutogenConfigurationMerger</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Godzone\OtherInstallers\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

This has made no difference. It still looks like the first two screenshots above. The initial installation seemed to go alright. I was asked to install the VLC Libraries which I did. I don’t recall seeing a message indicating the simulator would need to restart to see the Autogen configuration changes. SODE is installed and working. The airbridge attaches itself to an Aerosoft Airbus perfectly.

I have re-booted the computer and opened the sim several times but nothing changes. The Autogen is the only problem I’m having. Apart from that, the Godzone scenery is great.

I do have several other sceneries installed. I have ORBX NZSI as well as others. The order I have in the P3D scenery library is No 1: VLC_Libraries, No 2: NZTI, No 3: NZDN, then several sceneries including Ant’s sceneries, Tampa Sydney, then several FTX sceneries.

I’m running P3D V3.4 (I haven’t added the recent hot-fix yet), Windows 10. Any suggestions to get my scenery like Nzeddy’s last screenshot would be appreciated.

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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:33 pm

What sim are you using, Bruce? EDIT: sorry just saw that you've said P3D v3.

Bruce, the path isn't correct, it needs to point to the INSTALLED program, not the installer. It isn't a Godzone entry that needs to be added, but the AutogenConfigurationMerger install. See my post above for the 'default' path, most would have this provided their OS drive is C:\, and they didn't select a different location on install.

You won't actually see a warning during the initial install, as the simulator won't be running then, so the warning won't apply. (It appeared during the beta, but the included version only displays it if you have already started the simulator and changes are required.) Provided you let the VLC Libraries installer update, then ACMT should be installed properly.

It would be great to get to the bottom of this issue, as it didn't show up during the beta testing. So please let me know if your install has anything happen which might have been unusual, such as an interruption, and that the steps outlined in the manual actually occurred -- the installer should run the VLC Libraries installer, which in turn runs the ACMT installer, then exits, then the SODE installer should run.

The only time that this sort of thing should happen is if the user didn't allow the installer to edit the scenery.cfg file, but this doesn't relate to P3D v3, as it doesn't work the same way, there's no editing involved, P3D v3 is just called temporarily to add the scenery entries using it's own built-in 'hooks'.

So it seems most likely that the ACMT install is not happening for everyone during the VLC Libraries install. The ACMT beta appeared to have an issue with P3D v3, which is why I asked what sim you use. Eddy uses P3D v3, so it helps to know these things.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:03 pm

Just a quick note -- ACMT has a log file if it's properly installed, so worth a look:
%appdata%\SceneryDesign.org\AutogenConfigurationMerger
It also hold backups of previous autogen configurations.
If this folder doesn't exist, it means ACMT isn't installed. If it does exist, then maybe send me the log file.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby BruceR » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:57 pm

Here's a copy of the log;

4:37:39 PM | AutogenConfigurationMerger 1.0.0.38791
4:37:39 PM | FSPath: C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\VLC_Libraries
4:37:39 PM | >> Found config: C:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\VLC_Libraries\autogen\default.xml
4:37:39 PM | Scenery.cfg not found

Does that help?

In the meantime I'll delete;

<Launch.Addon>
<Name>AutogenConfigurationMerger</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Godzone\OtherInstallers\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe</Path>
</Launch.Addon>

from the exe.xml file...


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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:43 pm

Ok, that's weird, I'll need to talk to the author of ACMT about that.
I wonder if you can install manually. Provided this installed in the default location, you should be able to do this:

Start menu, type 'run' enter
put this in the run box:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SceneryDesign.org\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe" install p3dv3
enter
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:48 pm

The manual install will work easy, having FSX installed would a help .. still yet to get Paypal sorted .. not a prob , again got busy this afternoon.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby BruceR » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:11 pm

I'm not sure what I'm doing here ... I brought the Run box up and copy and pasted everything within your inverted commas, but got an error "Windows cannot find C:\ Program ....." Then I copy and pasted "C:\Program Files (x86)\ ...... to p3dv3. I had to OK it. I then got another error C:\Program Files (x86)\SceneryDesign.org\AutogenConfigurationMerger\ is unavailable.

(I'm just on my way out so will reply to any other query tomorrow - Sunday)

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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby NZ255 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:04 pm

H Rob, the ACMT didn't install for me with the Godzone installer.

I got the message popup saying it was going to but it didn't run.

Running the command install p3dv3 pointing at the exe in your 'otherinstallers' folder made it run, and i installed it in the default location.
It also added the correct exe entry in the exe.xml file
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby toprob » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:09 pm

Cheers, Nick. Which sim?

Come to think of it, there is no feedback when it installs, it just runs invisibly. When you run it manually, you'll probably get a UAC window, but within the VLC libraries installer access is already elevated, so you won't see this either.
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby NZ255 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:19 pm

p3dv3

Ah - ok.
I didn't have the exe entry before manually installing it. And there was no SceneryDesign.org folder in my c prog files x86.
Should it give me the option as to where I want to install it?
Is there only one exe for AMCT - the installer and the tool combined in one?
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Re: NZDN Very Sparse Autogen

Postby MurrayH » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:40 am

I am having the same issue (sparse autogen). I just have FSX.

My AutogenConfigurationManager.log looks like this...

11:27:02 a.m. | AutogenConfigurationMerger 1.0.0.38791
11:27:02 a.m. | FSPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VLC_Libraries\Tools
11:27:02 a.m. | Scenery.cfg not found

Is the Scenery.cfg not found entry normal?

I also do not have C:\Program Files (x86)\SceneryDesign.org\AutogenConfigurationMerger\AutogenConfigurationMerger.exe

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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