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Postby aerofoto » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:53 am

Following my/our earlier presentation focusing on HJG DC-10 simulation project .(among which AIR NEW ZEALAND full fleet representation has been produced) I've also produced a similar project in regard to HJG´s DC-8 simulations too .... since these particular simulations have undergone significant, FDE, panel/gauge, and sound upgrades which were released during 2016

As I did for the HJG DC-10's .... I've purposely represented "the entire AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8-52 and DC-8-54F fleet" as an FS based historical tribute to these great aircraft .... featuring each variation of livery and/or reconfiguration (minor though some of these were) applied to these aircraft between the December 1964 roll-out of our first aircraft (ZK-NZA) and the September 1986 retirement of our last aircraft (ZK-NZD) .... including its September 1989 sale 1983 to KALITTA/AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS (N806CK).

PLEASE NOTE .... the "AIR NEW ZEALAND aspect of this "NEW" project has not yet been released, but, here's a preview of each of the "principle" AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8-50 fleet member liveries as represented by me for these redeveloped HJG simulations ....


N9683Z/ZK-NZA (December 1964 rollout)

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ZK-NZA (1965) - pre-delivery
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ZK-NZA (1965) - delivery (interim TEAL/AIR NZ)
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ZK-NZB (1965) - delivery (interim TEAL/AIR NZ white star configuration)
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ZK-NZD (1968) - 1966 definitive AIR NZ livery
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ZK-NZD (1969)
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ZK-NZF (1970)
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ZK-NZG (1971)
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ZK-NZA (1973) - with "1974 Commonwealth Games" legend
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ZK-NZE (1973) - with "1974 Commonwealth Games" legend and logo
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ZK-NZA (1973) - 1973 definitive livery
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ZK-NZA (1973) - with black radome
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ZK-NZD (1973) - with "1974 Commonwealth Games" legend
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ZK-NZD (1974) - with "1974 Commonwealth Games" legend and logo
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ZK-NZC (1976) - with white Royal Mail decal
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ZK-NZF (1977) - post AIR NZ/NZNAC merger
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ZK-NZG (1977)
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ZK-NZE (1980) - with blue rudder trailing edge
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ZK-NZE (October 1981) - with NZ flag
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ZK-NZD (1981) - redelivery post freighter conversion
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ZK-NZD (1983) - 1982 definitive AIR NZ CARGO livery
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ZK-NZD (1986) - PDL International Singapore/Christchurch Air Race logos
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N806CK/ZK-NZD (1989) - parting out/post sale livery
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All HJG DC-8 simulations feature appropriate external night-lighting effects .... as follows ....


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AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8-50´s were among very few of these aircraft, in the world, that were equipped with tail/logo illumination when this stylr night-lighting was introduced from the early 1970´s.


SO .... there it "IS" folks .... an introduction to the HJG DC-8 simulations .... and with a distinctly New Zeland flavour :)


HJG DC-8 SIMULATION FS COMPATIBILITIES

- All HJG supplied DC-8 3D models and FDE are FS2004 native but FSX portable.

- All HJG supplied DC-8 2D panels are FS2004 native but FSX portable.

- All HJG supplied DC-8 soundpacks are represented by separate FS2004 and FSX specific/native file versions.

PLEASE NOTE: These new AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8 texture subjects are "NOT YET" available for public downloading.



A full apraisal of the HJG's redeveloped DC9 project please refer to following-limked audio-visual presentation ....


"HJG DC-8 REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT - WITH A NZ FLAVOUR"
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/24936 ... nt-flavour


A much more comprehensive apraisal of the AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8 "full fleet" aspect of this particular project (complete with brief operational history notes may alsi be viewd "HERE" ....


"KIWI MAGIC - THE FINAL STORY"
http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/threa ... inal-story


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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:02 am

I'm all EIGHT ED Out :) , Welcome to NZFF Mark, that is a brilliant set of screens, of all things I was in my JUSTFLIGHT DC-8 trying out my new purchase the FLY-TAMPA YSSY, the freeware from HJG would be much cheaper tho and just as much fun :)
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Splitpin » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Great .... I have a whole hard drive full of the HJG stuff ... Mr Madge and Co are legend :bow:
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:11 pm

'THANKS" for the welcome Ian :)

And "THANKS" for your appreciation of what Tony, and I, and all the team at HJG, try to do "SPLITPIN".

We hope to release a couple of surprises/new FS projects throughout 2017.

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:32 pm

Mark, the first time I put eyes on a DC-8 was when I was around 6 or 7 then adding , a local breakfast company 'Sanitarium' in the mid 1960's had little grey plastic DC-8 as a little give away toy on the 'Weet-Bix' box , course as we went out to the airport, the viewing platform we had the early livery DC-8 side by side with the then QANTAS V-Jet .. later DC-8's climbing out on damp wet days with the pools of smoke .. arr SUPERB .. last time I did see the '8' was in the Cargo livery 1987/8 ... recent one has return .. NASA of course , a Great plane.
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:27 pm

I was fortunate enough to fly on some of AIR NEW ZEALAND's DC-8's .... MEL/AKL (ZK-NZC) during January 1974 .... then AKL/RAR (ZK-NZA) during May 1975 (never forget that flight given we experienced over an hour of "extremly severe" turbulence on the edge of a Pacific TC :( ) .... and then RAR/AKL (ZK-NZC again) also during May 1975.

These trips are probably what endeared the DC-8 to me .... or vice versa.

I was additionally fortunate enough to do my last ever DC-8 flight on HAWAIIAN AIRLINES DC-8 SUPER 63 (N4934Z) an an AKL/RAR run during January 1990 ....

HAWAIIAN AIRLINES DC-8 SUPER 63 N4934Z
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.... also "the very last" commercial/PAX DC-8 services through AKL too.

I loved the aircraft :)

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:13 am

I just did not seem to even get on board a DC-8, my first international flight was in 1980 to Sydney , cripes back then we did not need a passport , forgot when that law change but it would have been handy to have cos the drinking age in Sydney or least to get in a bar was 18 and the amount of bars I got kicked out off, I have even missed out on what you would call heavy turbulence.
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:11 am

the drinking age in Sydney or least to get in a bar was 18 and the amount of bars I got kicked out off


Bloody "MONGRELS" .... aye Ian :( :) :D ;)

In my case part of that "severe turbulence" was a 1,500 FT (so I learned later) downdraft .... in roughly 3 seconds :(

I was down the back .... in 26C.

The velocity at which we sank/dropped caused everything in front of me to blurr .... my tray table folded in half .... everything that wasn't a fixture went "UP" to the ceiling (I can confirm what the laws of physics dictate .... everything that goes "up" must eventually come back "down" .... and which is precisely what resulted with a heck of a mess) .... fortunately I had my seatbelt "on", but even so, I left the seat somewhat and felt was just hanging there .... the sensation of the drop (normally akin to stomach butterflies in a rapidly descending elevator) was far more severe and felt like I'd been "kicked in the stomach (it actually hurt) .... the cabin lighting went "out" immediately .... and a woman PAX up front began screaming her skull off .... all this happening at 35,000 FT, after dinner, and at around 01:30 in the morning, in pitch blackness of the Pacific sky.

In "severe turbulence" the DC-8 had a tendency to want to roll .... slowly .... with increasing momentum .... and which happened repeatedly during the entire more than 1 hour episode of this severe turbulence en route between AKL and RAR .... DC-8-52 ZK-NZA .... on May 10th 1975.

Never forget that flight .... my 2nd-to-worst inflight experience .... but .... my worst experience of turbulence to date.

The trip back to AKL, from RAR .... DC-8-52 ZK-NZC .... on May 25th 1975 .... was, in comparison to the above flight, smooth as a babies bum and without the slightest ripple of any turbulence during the entire flight of 4hr 20 mins duration.


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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby deeknow » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:17 am

Fabulous work Mark, the textures look amazing. Love it :wub:
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:34 am

aerofoto wrote:
the drinking age in Sydney or least to get in a bar was 18 and the amount of bars I got kicked out off


Bloody "MONGRELS" .... aye Ian :( :) :D ;)

In my case part of that "severe turbulence" was a 1,500 FT (so I learned later) downdraft .... in roughly 3 seconds :(

I was down the back .... in 26C.

The velocity at which we sank/dropped caused everything in front of me to blurr .... my tray table folded in half .... everything that wasn't a fixture went "UP" to the ceiling (I can confirm what the laws of physics dictate .... everything that goes "up" must eventually come back "down" .... and which is precisely what resulted with a heck of a mess) .... fortunately I had my seatbelt "on", but even so, I left the seat somewhat and felt was just hanging there .... the sensation of the drop (normally akin to stomach butterflies in a rapidly descending elevator) was far more severe and felt like I'd been "kicked in the stomach (it actually hurt) .... the cabin lighting went "out" immediately .... and a woman PAX up front began screaming her skull off .... all this happening at 35,000 FT, after dinner, and at around 01:30 in the morning, in pitch blackness of the Pacific sky.


BLOODY MONGRELS :lol:

My only bumpy ride was nothing like that and it happened in a MAS 777 and approach to NZAA , a women did the same thing and "simply went nuts" why she even was given MY window seat I really do not NO! ... fact was that seat was going to be in need of maintenance during the ground time , she wrecked it ripping part of it apart on the arm/hand rest , some people should be sedated and put in the cargo hold and brought out after, This is your customer service guide ... Captain Ian :D
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:26 am

Pilots and cabin crew are generally "used to it" .... by virtue of the fact it's just "part of their profession" (it goes with the job) .... BUT .... for the typical unintiated PAX, whom may only fly once every few years, turbulence can, I s'pose, be a bit of "disconcerting experience" .... especially when things get "REALLY ROUGH" :)

I've had a few "NASTY FRIGHTS" in aeroplanes over the years, but, if one's keen on aviation, then, one shouldn't let oneself be pu-off by these .... always best to get back on the horse again ASAP after any bad experience. I think it does one good to have a "nasty fright" .... every so often anyway .... because it helps one appreciate, all that much more, what "a magnificent experience life can be" ;)

It doesn't make sense to be frightened away .... I mean ;)


the textures look amazing. Love it


"DEEKNOW" .... We'll try'n get the entire AIR NZ DC-8 fleet available ASAP. Probably a bit too much representation "of a single airline" for HJG to uploads .... BUT .... I have a few ideas that might be promoting of there general availability soon and may also be of interest to the 2 AIR NZ VA's also.

In the me antme .... the "NEW" HJG DC-8 base packs/FDE ...... for all DC-8 versions (released during our 2016 update) .... plus the "LATEST" customized DC-8 soundpacks .... and some mnor panel/gauge modifications too .... are all currently available for "FREE downloading from the HJG website ....

http://simviation.com/hjg/

All technical support is provided by HJG .... on its fiorum.

PLEASE NOTE: The 3X AIR NZ DC-8-52 and 1X AIR NZ CARGO DC-8-54F texture currently downloadable from the HJG website "are not" the "NEW"textures previewed above and linked above also. These old textures , on the HJG website, will each be replaced by these latest previewed versions within a future HJG website update .... but .... at least folk (whom may be interested) can see what's in the pipeline .... at HJG ;)

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:54 am

aerofoto wrote:I've had a few "NASTY FRIGHTS" in aeroplanes over the years, but, if one's keen on aviation, then, one shouldn't let oneself be pu-off by these .... always best to get back on the horse again ASAP after any bad experience. I think it does one good to have a "nasty fright" .... every so often anyway .... because it helps one appreciate, all that much more, what "a magnificent experience life can be" ;)

One thing I said recent in another forum , people their complaining and griping about the in-flight service or comfort on the aircraft, with air travel the biggest part of the holiday is the flight, least for me, my longest flight was only 11 to 12 hours then another connecting flight later, thing was, up the Monday morning , flight to Auckland was six in the evening , the flight to KL was just past one the next morning , the 11-12 hour flight , still no sleep flying is the fun , stop over in KL for another six hours in the airport and then fly to Kuching ... got there late evening , met the friends went out to dinner , still going strong , headed to a little town call Serian , its now around midnight again and still have not slept ... some reason two in the morning I crashed , Arrr air travel , simply keeps you going , and you know when you have landed is when you hit the ground .
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:48 am

air travel , simply keeps you going


I regularly fly AKL/LAX .... LAX/MIA .... and then MIA/BOG .... with nothing more than a rest of no more than several hours at LAX on this outbound routing ..... and returning BOG/MIA .... MIA/LAX .... and then LAX/AKL "back to back" .... and primarily with AA all the way too since their schedules, and routing, really do work in my favor :)

Been doing that a few times each year since 2000.

Despite the long hours of flying (particularly in regard the inbound/return routing where I don't go into rest/hybination at all) I generally find myself "pretty good/very alert" after we hit the ground at either destination .... and to the extent that I'd have "no problem whatsoever" repeating the very same routing the following day.

Knew I should have taken up that bloody cabin crew proposition I was offered way back in 1979 :D

And what happened .... WELL .... I ended up running a family business over 324 years, becoming an aviation photographer over the past 38 years (and which I continue doing), as well as ending up with HJG/Historic Jetliners Group since over the past 16 years .... since 2001 to be precise.

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:01 pm

aerofoto wrote:
air travel , simply keeps you going


And what happened .... WELL .... I ended up running a family business over 324 years, becoming an aviation photographer over the past 38 years (and which I continue doing), as well as ending up with HJG/Historic Jetliners Group since over the past 16 years .... since 2001 to be precise.

:P Well that is going to serve you right ... what go's in the veins stays in the Veins , funny you get the pompous duffus's out there who really don't appreciate the fun of it , only a few hours, maybe created should passenger complain module .. "Follow me 'Sir'" down into a bay below were the pax is tubed a stuck out on the wing .. passenger comfort .. air and heating .

Ian , the airline boss and comer up of great in-flight ideas :D
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:23 pm

I ended up running a family business over 324 years


Actually .... that should have read "34" years rather than 324 years :) .... bloody "dickie keyboard" :(

I might be "old" .... but .... I'm not "that old" :D

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:10 pm

Arr whats in a couple hundred years between aviators of old , (head scratching and the thinking) department .. never know how far back the company lineage maybe ... least in idea anyway. :)
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:23 pm

Back in 2014 .... I once registered on an FS forum stating my birth date as April 14th 1912 (the TITANIC connection intended) .... just for personal privacy/confidentiality and just as a joke too, but, not expecting anyone to notice.

It certainly raised a few eyebrows :)

The forum administrator contacted me later saying .... "IS IT TRUE .... THAT MAKES YOU 102 YEARS OLD .... OF COURSE IT IS" ;) .... and I'm obviously not senile yet either :D

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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:36 pm

This is were I spotted this livery .. I guess it was the livery and the time of day when the photo was taken .. comes down to the Deek looking dang pretty! B-)
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:43 pm

aerofoto wrote:Back in 2014 .... I once registered on an FS forum stating my birth date as April 14th 1912 (the TITANIC connection intended) .... just for personal privacy/confidentiality and just as a joke too, but, not expecting anyone to notice.

It certainly raised a few eyebrows :)

The forum administrator contacted me later saying .... "IS IT TRUE .... THAT MAKES YOU 102 YEARS OLD .... OF COURSE IT IS" ;) .... and I'm obviously not senile yet either :D

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Funny the glitch just happen .. 100 .. :nahnah: just think of it as last century when things were going bad with airlines ... whoops STILL HAPPENING :D
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Re: Air New Zealand DC-8 Project

Postby aerofoto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:12 pm

I forgot to add these to my first presenbtation on this AIR NZ DC-8 presentation ....


KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES/AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8-52 PH-DCA/ZK-NZA "Anthony Fokker"
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From May 27th until September 20th 1969 DC-8-52 ZK-NZA was leased to KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES where it operated in a hybrid scheme comprising of AIR NZ tail livery with KLM fuselage stripping and titles. In KLM service this aircraft became PH-ADA and was named "Antony FOKKER".

The above KLM/AIR NZ texture is scheduled for upgrading, but, I can't possibly look at attending to this until some time later this year :( :)


CROWNAIR DC-8-52 C-FCRN (1989) ex AIR NZ ZK-NZC
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ZK-NZC, C/N # 45752, L/N # 233, F/F August 2nd 1965,

ZK-NZC was first delivered to AIR NEW ZEALAND on September 17th 1965 (the last among the airlines first batch of 3 DC-8-52 acquisitions of 1965 .... 4 more aircraft were purchased and otherwise acquired between 1968 and 1971 (during its service to the airline -NZC was chartered to fly HM Queen Elizabeth 2nd and HRH Princess Anne .... accompanied by Captain Mark PHILLIPS .... between Rarotonga, in the Cook Islands, and Christchurch, New Zealand, on January 30th 1974, under the command of captain Ross JOHNSON, to officially close the 10th British Commonwealth Games at the commencement of the 1974 royal tour of New Zealand). It was sold to HOWARD GOLDEN on July 3rd 1982 (N49920) .... then onsold to LANDEN FINANCIAL CORPORATION during May 1987 .... and then reacquired by HOWARD GOLDEN during September 1987 .... then sold to FB AIR INC on October 15th 1987. It was then leased to CROWN AIR (C-FCRN) from October 14th 1988 .... then sold to CANADIAN AVIATION EXPRESS AIRLINES INC on February 2nd 1989 .... and was repossessed by FB AIR INC (N49920) on February 1st 1990. It was next leased to FAUCETT DEL PERU (OB-1421) from November 30th 1990 .... and returned to FB AIR (N49920) on April 30th 1991 .... then stored at Opa Locka, Florida, USA .... during which time it was converted to a pure freight DC-8F-52F configuration. It was then leased to SAN AIR (HK-3974X) from December 1994 .... and was seized by the FDA at Miami, Florida, USA on December 22nd 1994 .... then stored at Opa Lock, Florida, USA again .... and then returned to FB AIR (N49920) during December 1996. This aircraft then finally leased to TRANSPORTES CHARTRES DO BRASIL (PP-TPC "Daniel") from January 1997 .... then sold to DAEDALUS INTERNATIONAL HOLDINGS INC on May 4th 2001 .... and leased back to TCB and was eventually withdrawn from service during 2004. Today this particular aircraft remains in storage at Manaus, Brasil .... and is the "only remaining survivor" of the 7 strong fleet of DC-8-52 aircraft once operated by AIR NEW ZEALAND. A campaign has recently been launched by Paul BRENNAN .... under the "BRING OUR BIRDS HOME" banner .... trying to generate interest/support in (hopefully) repatriating this aircraft to New Zealand for permanent display along with 4 other historic and ex AIR NZ airframes.


POINTS OF CALL CANADA DC-8-52 C-FNZE (1987) ex AIR NZ ZK-NZE
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ZK-NZE, C/N # 45984, L/N # 336, F/F January 11th 1968.

ZK-NZE was first delivered to AIR NEW ZEALAND on February 27th 1968 (during its service to the airline -NZE was chartered to fly HM Queen Elizabeth 2nd and HRH The Duke Of Edinburgh between Adelaide, Australia, and Christchurch, New Zealand .... then Auckland, New Zealand, to Perth, Australia .... during royal tour of both New Zealand and Australia of October 1981. ZK-NZE also flew AIR NEW ZEALAND's "last ever" DC-8 PAX service on December 15th 1981 .... operating between Melbourne, and Wellington, under the command of captain Kieth WALSH). It was sold to HOWARD GOLDEN on July 6th 1982 (N4292P) .... then sold to LANDEN FINANCIAL CORPORATION during May 1987 .... and sold back to HOWARD GOLDEN during September 1987 .... then sold to FB AIR INC during October 1987. POINTS OF CALL CANADA then leased this aircraft (C-FNZE) from December 23rd 1987 .... followed by FIESTA HOLIDAYS from January 19th 1990 .... then WAYFARER HOLIDAYS LTD from February 18th 1991 .... until it was repossessed by FB AIR INC (N223FB) on February 26th 1991. It was then leased to FAUCETT DEL PERU (OB-1438) from May 1st 1991 .... then returned to FB AIR INC later during 1991 .... then leased back to FAUCETT DEL PERU from January 1st 1992 and returned to FB AIR INC on November 18th 1992 and stored. It was next leased by LINEAS AEREAS DEL CARIBE COLOMBIA (HK-3842X) from November 1992 and returned to FB AIR INC during July 1996 .... and was then stored at Miami, Florida, USA, where it was later scrapped.


Each of of the above texture subjects are currently downloadable from the HJG website.


ADDENDA: AIR NEW ZEALAND DC-8-52's ZK-NZE, ZK-NZF, and ZK-NZG) ....

ZK-NZE was the last of the airlines 5 "factory fresh" DC-8-52's acquired between 1965 and 1968. 2 further DC-8-52's were acquired 2nd-hand from UNITED AIR LINES .... during 1970 and 1971 .... ZK-NZF (ex N8036U) which was leased from 1970, then bought during 1971, and disposed of during 1976 (sold for onward lease to CYPRUS AIRWAYS and with whom became N99862 .... and which was later damaged in the hijack and gun battle incident, at Nicosia Airport, on February 20th 1978) .... and ZK-NZG (ex N8034U) which was leased by the airline from 1971 and disposed of, to EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS (as N801EV) also during 1976.


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