Apollo 11 50 years ago

[chopper_nut]

Whatever dude, you're completely ignorant, by choice it would seem, of spaceflight. I've got a semi basic working knowledge of the Apollo systems and computers, I've listened to hours and hours of recordings from both the spacecraft and mission control and talked to and quizzed people directly involved. The computers controlled all sorts of things. Just as an example, the AGC was capable of auto manoeuvreing the vehicle to a vector in inertial space and igniting the engine for a certain length of time. Doesn't need to be very complex to do that. John Glenn was runing for the semate in 1970 too... not at NASA. Use your noodle if you want to talk to adults. Fin

[Charl]

Moving on, because Apollo 11 is an important milestone never mind the minutiae...

Here's quite a good overview, given 50 years of hindsight:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@ideasroom/2 ... space-race

And an interview with Armstrong, where he spells out (@12:27) why interest waned in the moon programme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvmFeJu4maU

The Apollo moonshot was very much a product of the Cold War.

[chopper_nut]

Regarding that first article, I think that it's interesting that people continue to focus on how much Apollo cost. It's often overlooked how many jobs the space program created and how many new technologies came from it. One of the most obvious is GPS. More than 400,000 people were employed directly by Apollo, so it actually put food on a lot of tables. It's funny, there's a random interview conducted around that time of a young negro man who say's 'why should they go up there when that money could be spent creating jobs' or something very close to that. Just shows how narrow minded people are.
Armstrong is correct in that interview that the lack of competition was the reason Apollo had such a short life. The AAP (Apollo Applications Program) could have taken men to other planets. There were plans to fly an orbiting lab around Venus and the hardware could've been adapted to go to Mars. The fact is that the Saturn series of launch vehicles had the highest success rate of any, there's not really any reason upgraded versions shouldn't be flying today. Apollo was far more than technical achievement though... how many people became pilots, engineers, scientists etc because of what they saw as children or teenagers..... That is the real achievement of Apollo... inspiration.

[Charl]

You are so right.
Without the inspiration, we'd still be stuck in the Pleistocene era.

[SUBS17]

Whatever dude, you're completely ignorant, by choice it would seem, of spaceflight. I've got a semi basic working knowledge of the Apollo systems and computers, I've listened to hours and hours of recordings from both the spacecraft and mission control and talked to and quizzed people directly involved. The computers controlled all sorts of things. Just as an example, the AGC was capable of auto manoeuvreing the vehicle to a vector in inertial space and igniting the engine for a certain length of time. Doesn't need to be very complex to do that. John Glenn was runing for the semate in 1970 too... not at NASA. Use your noodle if you want to talk to adults. Fin

John Glenn and Neil Armstrong later went up in Skylab, John was still working for NASA and helped Apollo13 return to Earth.

[SUBS17]

Moving on, because Apollo 11 is an important milestone never mind the minutiae...

Here's quite a good overview, given 50 years of hindsight:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@ideasroom/2 ... space-race

And an interview with Armstrong, where he spells out (@12:27) why interest waned in the moon programme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvmFeJu4maU

The Apollo moonshot was very much a product of the Cold War.

Apollo was part of the tech tree for HumanKind, there is a monument on the dark side of the moon like the pyramids so someday they will have to send people back there to check it out. There is more in the solar system to explore such as moons and planets especially mars and the moons of Saturn and Jupiter. There will be the opportunity for HumanKind to explore other systems and stars in the future, first HumanKind needs to explore the solar system and find out what is out there.

[chopper_nut]

John Glenn and Neil Armstrong later went up in Skylab, John was still working for NASA and helped Apollo13 return to Earth.

Where's your proof for any of your claims? I sure have a lot to back up my facts.

[emfrat]

.... I honestly don't know where to start with this....

Don't we have a "Like" button or an "Upvote" one around here?

The Ignore button is working perfectly

[Charl]

monument on the dark side of the moon like the pyramids

lol didn't Stanley Kubrick... no, wait, that was Pink Floyd.

Where's your proof for any of your claims? I sure have a lot to back up my facts.

Nick, SUBS spends half of his time trolling when posting here. Don't feed the troll, let it wash over you, it can get quite entertaining.

The Ignore button is working perfectly

lol again

[chopper_nut]

Yeah, I'm thinking that too... didn't think we'd have trolls here but anyway.

[Splitpin]

Nick, I always enjoy your space stuff ...I've been watching back to back doco's on history channel today .... everything from Red Stone to the Shuttle ...bloody amazing. I've seen many before, but always hear something I didn't know.
I'm wearing my Omega Speedmaster this week (first watch on the moon I'm told) it's a commemorative edition (replica of course)

All those guys were true heroes ...they knew nothing until they did it ....and they DID IT.

Keep it coming mate .....

Have just changed my wallpaper to the "Earthrise" photo ....who took that? ....just watched it today, and I can't remember
Re trolls ....they live under bridges mate ...worth nothing ...as Charl said: " let it wash over you, it can get quite entertaining."

[emfrat]

This turned up on my FB today
https://ascienceenthusiast.com/50-years ... n-landing/

Enjoy, and gloat

[chopper_nut]

I watched the landing and EVA in real time today which was entertaining. Lucky boy Marty, having a Speedmaster. I'd like to get one but I can't justify the cost. One day maybe.

As for 'Earthrise' Bill Anders took the famous photo. Borman was flying the vehicle and Jim Lovell was down in the Lower Equipment Bay or LEB. Anders was sitting in the right seat doing photography. The first photo was actually in black and white.

Wasn't sure if I was being trolled or whether he was just stupid... seems to delight in posting nonsense any time I post something space related.

[scaber]

I'm tempted to kill some of these replies as being overtly sexist. haven't felt this way for quite some time.

For those interested the BBC has a great podcast series "13 Minutes to the Moon" - well worth listening to though occasionally a bit repetitious.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2

[cowpatz]

I'm tempted to kill some of these replies as being overtly sexist. haven't felt this way for quite some time.

Have I missed something??

[scaber]

I'm tempted to kill some of these replies as being overtly sexist. haven't felt this way for quite some time.

Have I missed something??

Just the troll . . .

[SUBS17]

I'm tempted to kill some of these replies as being overtly sexist. haven't felt this way for quite some time.

For those interested the BBC has a great podcast series "13 Minutes to the Moon" - well worth listening to though occasionally a bit repetitious.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2

In what way could what I have written been taken as sexist, I was just merely pointing out that Neil Armstrong and John Glenn did all of the calculations for the flights to the moon. It is a big monumental task to write a calculation for such a journey especially considering all of the unknowns at the time such as what the atmosphere is like on the moon and how it effects your Space Ship. The Movie about some women doing calculations is fiction because the only people on the planet with the knowledge and expertise were the very men sent to the moon. One issue that did come about was Neil Armstrong's comment could have been much better if he had of said HumanKind instead of ManKind. These people who flew to the moon were all test pilots and their calculations is what got them there and back. As test pilots they all had to write reports post test flight and prior to a test flight which is relevant to the data of the mission. So they are no strangers to such calculations particularly with early rockets into Space and high altitude test flights, those outside this group would have no background as to how do such a thing.

[chopper_nut]

I say again... where's your evidence that things happen as you say??? I have a lot to back up the official story

[SUBS17]

I say again... where's your evidence that things happen as you say??? I have a lot to back up the official story

If you do not know that Neil Armstrong and John Glenn were Test Pilots then perhaps you should read up on them as clearly you do not know much about them.

[chopper_nut]

Yes I know both were combat and then test pilots... as all of the early astronauts were... what does that have to do with your claim that they worked out all calculations by hand before flight on some massive board? (Which is absurd for the reasons that I have previously stated) Where's your evidence for your claim that the AGC did nothing on Apollo? Where's your evidence that John Glenn was working for NASA in 1970 when Apollo 13 flew when he left a long time before? Where's your evidence that there were no women working on trajectory, guidance and computers?