Thanks Charl, I do like the old F-4s. I think that shot would have looked better over a darker background...it looks washed out. I couldn't get into any other areas when I flew that....there were about 130,000!! other people online at the time. The flight lasted about 5 mins, then I got hit by something on the ground ...game over Just wish I could close those little flare/ chaff dispenser doors. Thanks for looking.