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Postby Yob » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:41 pm

Hello all fellow simmers, Kiwis aviation lovers. As some of you may have already have read i am developing a Spitfire Mk IX for fsx. If you don't have any skills that would be useful to us please jump to paragraph 2.

We are currently looking for C++ coders for the ambitious project. If you know C++ we would like to hear from you, if you want to contact me please PM here or on another forum i visit. To discuss Payments and work Please PM for further details. Please note that we are looking for coders as soon as the 3d model is complete. But Since advisement never hurts please contact us and i will get back to you ASAP. If you know the program solid works please contact me via PM even if you don't want to help. Because using solid works for numerous animation and simulation benefits, any advice and or help would be much appreciated.


This project is currently in the 3d modeling and R&D, it is coming along very nicely. Since we are still in the modeling stage as i am the modeler i would appreciate any photos that can help in the developing of this classic bird.




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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:53 am

I no this may be the oldest line in sim design and model development , the MkIX has been done so many times before .. why not in the early build adjust the design and build to one of the last WWII operational Spitfires and one that happens to be on the rebuild in New Zealand and been in this country for the last twenty years ... a teardrop , bubble canopy MkXIVE ..If you contact the people putting it back together in Auckland , Ardmore i believe in sure they would love to have there efforts built in a computer based model and i'm sure they would be more than happy to shoot the hell out of it if you ask them nicely.

The MkIX ... well its a MkXVIE at Wigram and like Marty i can shoot the heckles out of it and the rivets as well ... One other thing you might want to consider is a scrapbook of screens to show the development work that go's into it .
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Postby Yob » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:59 am

Thanks Ian, the plan is to start with a mark 9 which i can get my hands on at least 2 flying examples then we expand to the other spitfire marks.
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Postby Adrian Brausch » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:13 pm

I have to ask the question,..why Spitfire when A2A ,Realair and numerous other Established Addon brands have covered the Spitfire pretty well already blink.gif , If you want to break into the Payware market you need to have something Unique and unmessed with,...or this Spitfire of yours would have to be absolutely Spectacular. Good luck man but I think you are going down the wrong path IMO., there are many many cool Aircrafts you could be focusing on instead..., Just sayin hae...
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Postby Yob » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:49 pm

I could do a corsair but are there any in NZ.
List of stuff we could do but not the same quality. These would be Razbam or Alphasim quality which the rest of the team along with myself hate.

SU-30
MIG-29SMT
DH-98

See our dilemma, if you have an idea let me know.

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Postby Naki » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:55 pm

Surely you would know that there is a flying Corsair in NZ? There is an ex RNZAF example based at Masterton
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:09 pm

Corsair ... again so many ... you mention a DH product .. why not one that has air force connections and private flyer , Derek Palmer did a great 2004 model .. there a re plenty in OZ and we have access to one here .. be ideal for everyone ... the Devon .
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Postby deeknow » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:27 pm

Yeah there's a lovely Corsair based here. Was also wondering about the Spitty selection too given how popular the current offerings out there are???
How about a Short Solent or Sunderland? Does it have to be a fighter?
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:48 pm

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How about a Short Solent or Sunderland? Does it have to be a fighter?

Now that's a great choice , i have a set of pilots notes .. i'm sure with contacts an Aucklanditer could get in the MOTAT aircraft .. the Solent/Sunderland would be a superb choice due to the New Zealand connection and makes for a much easier first project due lack of animation ... conserve the energy in building and have a fully kitted out hull .
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Postby Yob » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:17 pm

Yea i need blueprints through and there very hard to find. Well at least for me they are. About the corsair I have not lived in Nz for a few years now and was too young to remember and have seen Pictures but thought they might be from a aircraft from another place. Since that is what the RAAF does.

I feel like a noob now thanks for the ideas, i will discuss it and it might come about.
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:33 am

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Yea i need blueprints through and there very hard to find.

You maybe very surprised what you can get sent to you from aircraft companies and if you scow the technical book shops , I have book here were the detail line drawings that are so defined , simply copies , surprising watch you find with a little research , it may cost you a little but worth it .
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Postby Kelvinr » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:53 am

I support your agenda, Yob. I think the difficulty will be finding the sweet spot in terms of aircraft selection and people pleasing as well as availability in resources to complete the project. It is harder and harder to get people onside with projects that may initially appear to replicate other projects already in the market. Sometimes it is about looking at that one extra function or feature to get people convinced. Flight Sim enthusiasts are now harder to please than ever given the need to replicate real world functions in aircraft so I do hope you succeed as it would most likely open more doors for development.

My two cents.

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Postby Yob » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:29 pm

Thanks Kelvin.
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Postby Adrian Brausch » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:34 pm

I am absolutely not trying to discourage you from having a crack at FS Modelling ,.quite the opposite mate I'd love to see you succeed with it. Yes it does have something with finding the "sweet spot" with aircraft selection and pleasing people..it has EVERYTHING to do with it. I can tell you from my own experience you need to provide something different from the rest,..flogging another Spitfire,..like the P-51 has be done....and done really well by existing and established brands., also if I can suggest another thing keep your decisions/updates dates of release etc well under wraps until they are set in stone. Doing another Spit would like doing another C-130 or DC-3...its been done reasonably thoroughly ( although if you were do build a C-130J VC to couple with their J model that would be very popular !). A Sunderland would be excellent.. Myself and Ian Warren along with others have more than enough info to build it,..RNZAF,RAAF,RAF all used them if you were to couple that with dropping ordance like depth charges and bombs you would have a winner..god knows that rubbish Sunderland available at Simmarket needs to be replaced !.

A few Models I'd love to see:

Nanchang CJ 6A
Cessna A37B
Bristol Freighter
Walsh Brothers type D flying boat

I wish you every success mate,..but (and its only my opinion mind),..the Spitfire like the Mustang would be a waste of your time and resources ,...go for something not done...think it through properly hae.
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Postby dbcunnz » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:53 pm

Hi Elijah
That list that Adrian has there and the F27 with working VC which has not been done for FSX would be another excellent choice
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Postby Adrian Brausch » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:55 pm

YES !!!,..do an F-27 Friendship !!!!,.." build it and they will come " biggrin.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:57 pm

Adrian Brausch wrote:
QUOTE (Adrian Brausch @ Apr 21 2013,4:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
YES !!!,..do an F-27 Friendship !!!!,.." build it and they will come " biggrin.gif

27 reasons , Yes indeed and you even have a regular here on the forum who would be the idea tester "SA227" a Fokker pilot , could get you photos and every aspect .. nook cranny and cargo spot spill spot .
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Postby lowglow » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:42 pm

Adrian Brausch wrote:
QUOTE (Adrian Brausch @ Apr 21 2013,3:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
YES !!!,..do an F-27 Friendship !!!!,.." build it and they will come " biggrin.gif

One on the way I believe Read here

I second the Nanchang another I would like to see is the Yak 3 for FSX
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:53 pm

Adrian Brausch wrote:
QUOTE (Adrian Brausch @ Apr 21 2013,4:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am absolutely not trying to discourage you from having a crack at FS Modelling ,.quite the opposite mate I'd love to see you succeed with it. Yes it does have something with finding the "sweet spot" with aircraft selection and pleasing people..it has EVERYTHING to do with it. I can tell you from my own experience you need to provide something different from the rest,..flogging another Spitfire,..like the P-51 has be done....and done really well by existing and established brands., also if I can suggest another thing keep your decisions/updates dates of release etc well under wraps until they are set in stone. Doing another Spit would like doing another C-130 or DC-3...its been done reasonably thoroughly ( although if you were do build a C-130J VC to couple with their J model that would be very popular !). A Sunderland would be excellent.. Myself and Ian Warren along with others have more than enough info to build it,..RNZAF,RAAF,RAF all used them if you were to couple that with dropping ordance like depth charges and bombs you would have a winner..god knows that rubbish Sunderland available at Simmarket needs to be replaced !.

Give you an example of the company your in EJ and the experience of the aircraft designers .. AB go's way back and i recall around 1997/8 with my first Wigram using the only and best P3 off the era , Put Adrian's name into flightsim.com , your really in International company of some of the worlds best aircraft builders .

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Postby Adrian Brausch » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:06 am

lowglow wrote:
QUOTE (lowglow @ Apr 21 2013,6:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One on the way I believe Read here

I second the Nanchang another I would like to see is the Yak 3 for FSX


the F-27 looks great but I hope he spends as much time on making the nose look better as he has on the Lnding Gear cause at the moment it looks awful . If the nose aint right then the rest is pointless ( hehe pun intended biggrin.gif )
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