PMDG 737NGX released!

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Postby cowpatz » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:34 pm

Interesting to see this on the the AVSIM front page:

Flight1 and iFly have produced the most sophisticated and comprehensive 737NG add-on aircraft to date for FSX.

It sort of appeared just days after the PMDG release. They may have to eat humble pie.
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Postby SgtPepper » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:25 pm

She looks awesome, don't know if my system will cope?

Is there anyone with the CS 767 as well as this? if so how does it compare in relation to frame rates??

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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:10 pm

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She looks awesome, don't know if my system will cope?

You should be fine , CS727/75/76 are from earlier generation they work like rocket fuel , PMDG 73 is more the operation systems and Dang ..they are good .
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Postby SgtPepper » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:18 pm

Cheers Ian, I,ve been hinting for fathers day, all I've got so far is... rolleyes.gif
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Postby Shamrock55 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:22 pm

My system is pretty middle of the road and i'm getting good 15-20fps on the ground at RealNz Wellington with high detail settings and a lot better in the air. It actually performs a lot better then the Jetstream and is very smooth. There are quite a few tweaks you can do to the plane to grab a few extra frames such as turning off the copilots displays and in the introduction guide PMDG recommend several graphics settings and FSX.CFG tweaks to further improve things.

Its also setup so that you can jump in and firewall the throttles without programming the FMC or fiddling with settings if you don't want to. You can choose panel "states" to setup the cockpit as cold and dark, ready to fly or with either a short or long preflight before you're ready. So if you want to be airbourne in 30 seconds or spend 30 minutes prepping everything from scratch the choice is yours.

A few things that have really struck me so far:

The heads up guidance display opens up a whole new world of IFR flying without looking down at the displays, I did a few approaches to NZWN earlier on with 30Kt crosswinds and flying a difficult approach becomes so much easier with the HUGs.

Wing flex is very nice and realistic. The wing and passenger views add to the realism.

Strobe lights reflect off the tarmac and in combination with new landing light effects really contribute to the night lighting being the best i've seen.

Head movement in the cockpit during turbulance is simulated really well

Failures such as fires or overheats are very well simulated and the more you fly each aircraft the more wear and tear you generate increasing the likelihood of failures (you can turn all this off if you want)

The advanced GPWS with a ground map looks excellent and makes for easier flying around mountain areas. Looking forward to shooting the RNAV approach for NZQN with this smile.gif

The sound package is amazing. Pumps, systems, air con, fans, every switch and knob has its own realistic sound. The APU and engine sounds are spot on.

It really is enjoyable to hand fly and not touch any of the automation if you wish.

Buy it.

My specs for comparison, pretty average compared to many systems out there:

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Postby Splitpin » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:19 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Aug 6 2011,5:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should be fine , CS727/75/76 are from earlier generation they work like rocket fuel , PMDG 73 is more the operation systems and Dang ..they are good .


Maybe rocket fuel on your system Ian....not mine at the moment. dry.gif
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Postby kcgb » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:30 pm

Another pic
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Postby morrisman1 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:52 pm

Really really really want!
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Postby deeknow » Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:56 pm

cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Aug 6 2011,3:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting to see this on the the AVSIM front page:
Flight1 and iFly have produced the most sophisticated and comprehensive 737NG add-on aircraft to date for FSX.
It sort of appeared just days after the PMDG release. They may have to eat humble pie.

Well to be fair to the iFly guys that's their standard type which flight1 have had on their site for some time, and it certainly was true up until yesterday winkyy.gif
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Postby Splitpin » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:49 pm

deeknow wrote:
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Well to be fair to the iFly guys that's their standard type which flight1 have had on their site for some time, and it certainly was true up until yesterday winkyy.gif


Humble pie ....maybe...but i think it comes down to what you want, for me the iFLY 73 is just right.....i hate to get into this.."this vs that " stuff....if you like it, who cares. I do agree that PMDG have set a benchmark with this package, but its not for everyone. Im a great fan of Vertigo ....but i think their Avenger fell short of the mark....but thats just me...KC and Ian love it....which is great....i dont.

Just my 10 cents worth....
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Postby Nzeddy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:02 pm

Just some shots of the VC.





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Postby Splitpin » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:55 pm

thumbup1.gif thumbup1.gif your starting to sell it to me tongue.gif
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Postby raddragon » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:59 pm

A few screens. On the ground, in flight at WN.























On the ground after a flight into NZQN this morning

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Postby connor » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:46 am

It does look good. If only I had 80 od NZD's to blow on it. Donations Welcome. laugh.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:43 am

Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Aug 6 2011,11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but i think their Avenger fell short of the mark....but thats just me...KC and Ian love it....which is great....i dont.

Marty you do no there is a patch for , primary fix was that gunner rotating without a gunner in it , maybe they will return and replace the extra crew members .

Back to the 737 , with all the screens above , little mention off the switch,s , many extra options like fuel load and watching fuel use , 6000kg at NZHN - NZWN FL250 , getting to 25000ft fuel was 3100kg
landing at with 1780 kg , it was more a dogleg flight , well worth $81NZ cool.gif
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Postby raddragon » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:24 pm

Has anyone got the Steve Hall NZQN RNAV approachs working in the NGX? I uploaded them into the same location as all my other PMDG AIRAC data, but they dont show up in the NGX. Any ideas? Anyone got it going?
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Postby Rotordude » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:01 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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Back to the 737 , with all the screens above , little mention off the switch,s , many extra options like fuel load and watching fuel use

my 20 dollar piper super cub can do that tongue.gif ohh hang on the default beaver does that too....... smile.gif

Your sales pitch is not very convincing Ian biggrin.gif

I have too much heavy metal parked in the mothball hanger already, tubes just bore me so this for me would just be another... Nice aircraft all the same.
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Postby deeknow » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:46 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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6000kg at NZHN - NZWN FL250 , getting to 25000ft fuel was 3100kg landing at with 1780 kg

Wo Ian!!!, what were you carrying there, 30ton of gold bullion?
Seriously, that fuel burn is WAY too high, which particular model NG was it? Did you set the engine rating or cost index to anything in particular?
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:01 pm

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Aug 7 2011,5:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have too much heavy metal parked in the mothball hanger already

Yeah so do I , just recent brought the Aerosoft A320 , very disappointed , The PMDG 747 is still a bloody bute after four years in the FSX operations , like you I have the Ian Warren Graveyard - hanger is just to small , the A320 has already been earmarked for scrap ,I,ve off got VC10s to DC-10s , ATR,s to Beech,s to Concorde , 727s , 707s and even the old Ready for Pushback for FS2002 when released was the one to have to have , this company released as a freeware and works find in FS9 .

This one tho .. Oh Boy this one is in a class off its own , the cockpit artwork is to the extreme , switch,s and knob s so well modeled and they function . be while before this one will knocked off it pedastal and that be more likely the PMDG Dash8 .
Hows that Pete biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (deeknow @ Aug 7 2011,5:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, that fuel burn is WAY too high, which particular model NG was it? Did you set the engine rating or cost index to anything in particular?

TEST FLIGHT , went up , went down , just went clowning around , five cycles off Hamilton before setting final course cool.gif
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Postby Adamski » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:14 pm

OK - here goes ... here's a quick trip from NZAA to NZWN:





















Other than cropping, these are totally unadulterated. It really is a breath-taking add-on.
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