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by **dbcunnz** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:05 pm

If any wants to land at Murchison NZMR use a chopper as the NZSI version is utter cr@p there are 3 to 4 ft mounds and holes in the main runway also if you fly back up the Buller river from just passed Owen river and right through to Lake Station you will see a few small settlements on the side of hills with high rise buildings that have sprung up out of nowhere even a look in Google Earth would have let them see that no such settlements exist.
If you have the VLC Lake Station NZLE installed you will needs the following two files altered the .bgl needs to be changed to .off
Lake Station NZLE

VLC_Airfields Scenery
NZLE_ADEX_VLC_CVX.off

ORBX FTX_NZSI_05_SCENERY
ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZLE_objects.off

by **toprob** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:21 pm

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 19 2011,5:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If any wants to land at Murchison NZMR use a chopper as the NZSI version is utter cr@p there are 3 to 4 ft mounds and holes in the main runway also if you fly back up the Buller river from just passed Owen river and right through to Lake Station you will see a few small settlements on the side of hills with high rise buildings that have sprung up out of nowhere even a look in Google Earth would have let them see that no such settlements exist.
If you have the VLC Lake Station NZLE installed you will needs the following two files altered the .bgl needs to be changed to .off
Lake Station NZLE

VLC_Airfields Scenery
NZLE_ADEX_VLC_CVX.off

ORBX FTX_NZSI_05_SCENERY
ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZLE_objects.off

Worth a check -- do you have the VLC South Island airfield pack installed? That has NZLE, so you would need to deal with the duplication there.

by **Adamski** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:32 pm

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Dec 19 2011,4:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm open Windows Explorer and check that file it is looking for is actually there?- If not, search for it. If you can't find it, try a reinstall.

I think I had that as well at some stage. I was re-installing my FTX AU SP4 at the same time. I went round in circles for a while, but a 2nd time install (same parameters as the first) seemed to cure it.

by **Rotordude** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:59 pm

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 19 2011,5:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If any wants to land at Murchison NZMR use a chopper as the NZSI version is utter cr@p there are 3 to 4 ft mounds and holes in the main runway also if you fly back up the Buller river from just passed Owen river and right through to Lake Station you will see a few small settlements on the side of hills with high rise buildings that have sprung up out of nowhere even a look in Google Earth would have let them see that no such settlements exist.
If you have the VLC Lake Station NZLE installed you will needs the following two files altered the .bgl needs to be changed to .off
Lake Station NZLE

VLC_Airfields Scenery
NZLE_ADEX_VLC_CVX.off

ORBX FTX_NZSI_05_SCENERY
ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZLE_objects.off

Interesting, I have a smooth as NZMR runway and no hi-rise settlement on the Buller. So I think NZSI version is not to bad at all.

by **toprob** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:11 pm

Not too sure what time of day your shot is, Pete, but is does seem to show that I'm not the only one getting dark textures.

I've spent some time editing my ENBSeries settings to get something which works with Orbx, but it still is very dark. Here's a shot showing the transition from Real NZ Nelson to FTX NZSI...

Doug -- sorry, I misread your post, I didn't realise you had already done the work to fix the duplicate elevations.

by **Ian Warren** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:42 pm

Currently there are texture issues as well that serve the North Island and many off the third party photo real addons from Real-New Zealand , Auckland/ Wellington / Paraparaumu and from FScreations.org ,s Hamilton / Taupo and many freeware in the works such as Wanganui heck the list go's on , affects cause a change in roof texture ie: Gables on the roof and the housing being turned into so to speak'little corner shop dairies' with a horrible blue and yellow housing texture with signage .

Large portion off these areas i have worked on ' years off AGNing ' and found a solution in replacing the roof texture call 'Gable Roof Texture Fix' from ORBX and the housing textures from Mike , FSCreatations.org file name 'Oceania_ANG_textures , course over at Mikes site .

Since i autogened most these areas found this problem away,s occurred after ORBX released the Australian scenery which in turn affected New Zealand . Other area that have premier New Zealand third party scenery is also affected , this will change with modifying textures so to suit all party,s . I have no answer for Antarctic X as dont have it yet .

I'm yet still to view other areas , Christchurch New Zealand photoreal is currently in the build , this a freeware that mesh,s nicely with the ORBX NZSI but will have this very problem , many other South Island scenery is currently being address to bring it all back in line with what us Kiwis are use to .

They are all third party design and its a case off mixing , adding and fixing but to make it simple for all to enjoy .

by **Rotordude** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:59 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Dec 20 2011,1:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not too sure what time of day your shot is, Pete, but is does seem to show that I'm not the only one getting dark textures.

I've spent some time editing my ENBSeries settings to get something which works with Orbx, but it still is very dark. Here's a shot showing the transition from Real NZ Nelson to FTX NZSI...

Rob my shot was taken just off post dawn so yeah I was pretty much in the shadows, also have shade running. Most of the time the texture brightness is pretty good.
On a note I did stop using ENB when I started with shade.

by **dbcunnz** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:07 pm

QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Dec 19 2011,5:05 PM) *
If any wants to land at Murchison NZMR use a chopper as the NZSI version is utter cr@p there are 3 to 4 ft mounds and holes in the main runway also if you fly back up the Buller river from just passed Owen river and right through to Lake Station you will see a few small settlements on the side of hills with high rise buildings that have sprung up out of nowhere even a look in Google Earth would have let them see that no such settlements exist.

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Dec 20 2011,12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting, I have a smooth as NZMR runway and no hi-rise settlement on the Buller. So I think NZSI version is not to bad at all.

Here are some pics showing the very uneven ground at NZMR also some pics showing Google images and the NZSI Villages that have suddenly sprung up out of nowhere.

Murchison airfield

ORBX NZSI Settlements or Villages that don't exist
First pic Google and the ORBX NZSI about halfway between Owen River and Owen Junction
Second pic at Harleys Rock Google and the ORBX NZSI aprox seven KM east of Kawatiri Junction

First pic Google and the ORBX NZSI just off Lake Rotoiti end of Lake Station airfield
Second pic Google and the ORBX NZSI Is Lake Rotoiti showing the village in Google that NZSI has omitted to add.

ORBX NZSI has a village at Top House and a couple more in the Upper Wairau valley that do not exist.

by **Adamski** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:32 pm

Blimey, Doug - some of these phantom villages are *towns*

Maybe ORBX have access to planning applications!

by **Timbo** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:35 pm

There is no Orbx NZSI showing in your shots Doug

by **dbcunnz** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:53 pm

Timbo wrote:
QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 21 2011,4:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no Orbx NZSI showing in your shots Doug

So why have they only shown up since I installed Orbx NZSI they were never there before the install it

by **Redda03** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:49 pm

Here are some pics showing the very uneven ground at NZMR also some pics showing Google images and the NZSI Villages that have suddenly sprung up out of nowhere.

Hi Doug,

No problems with my NZSI NZMR Airfield and nor do I have any of those "phantom" villages in the areas you have mentioned.

It does appear that your pics at NZMR are using the VLC software and therefore you must have an inherent problem with your NZSI install.

Here is what I see at NZMR in my NZSI setup (Feb)

Cheers,

Bob R

by **scaber** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:57 pm

Timbo wrote:
QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 21 2011,4:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no Orbx NZSI showing in your shots Doug

Well it's not default FSX and it's not VLC (at least not what my VLC looks like!) so what is it?

by **Timmo** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:31 pm

It looks to me as if it's a conflict between NZSI and VLC Doug- Orbx uses some funky landclass definitions which may, in conjunction with VLC, be causing those.

Try unticking VLC in the scenery library and try again to see if they are still there

Edit- It looks as if its Scrub or scattered scrub in the VLC landclass is calling a texture that it doesn't usually. Not a VLC issue, likely a texture issue but I have no idea if that is caused by NZSI

by **toprob** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:52 pm

Would switching VLC/FTX priority cause that?

by **Timmo** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:01 pm

May well do- Doug, can you ensure that NZSI has a higher priority than VLC

by **dbcunnz** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:06 am

Timbo wrote:
QUOTE (Timbo @ Dec 21 2011,4:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is no Orbx NZSI showing in your shots Doug

You are right it was a mixture of VLC and ORBX

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Dec 21 2011,10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
May well do- Doug, can you ensure that NZSI has a higher priority than VLC

Have got it sorted now apart from the very rough NZMR airfield closed ORBX and went to Default and VLC and the NZMR airfield was as it should be went back to ORBX Oceania turned VLC off and the rough Airstrip was back so I don't know what is causing it apart from it is only like this when I have the ORBX activated.
I have been right through FSX and have no other NZMR files anywhere.

ORBX NZSI NZMR no VLC

by **Adamski** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:32 am

Have those strange Russian buildings (your #1) gone now? Here's what I see at NZMR - no issues that I can see. These were taken at around 9am in the morning, so the light is a bit contrasty.

NZSI above VLC.

The following three pics may serve as a good comparison. Note that NZSI textures were enabled throughout - only the layers were toggled.

NZSI above VLC.

Just VLC.

FSX default.

NZSI mapping looks good but, as Rob says, the greens could come back by at least 5%. Both VLC and default FSX - though both look "drier", seem really quite insipid. I'd love to see something in-between the two!

Also, NZSI seems to have the background hills entirely covered by bush. May be worth doing a Google satellite view on that. I'm not entirely sure I like VLC's "blobby" texture boundaries here. I even prefer the default FSX in that respect.

So ... I'd say - having never been anywhere near NZMR

- that *none* of the three versions are very realistic. It seems that VLC does some areas way better than NZSI and vice-versa. Swings and roundabouts - which is why it'd be great to run a decent hybrid.

Just to brighten things up a bit ... Markus Hellwig's excellent Bushwagon at Mount Cook (spot the deliberate mistake!!) ...

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:19 am

I spot the Mistake ...

but to someone else .. TonyM is having a MP Friday night around NZSI , gawd

- i may have to buy a bushwagon ... bitting my tongue while 'OUCH!' i wrote that ... maybe my Bronco be acceptable if its released in time

by **Kahu** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:53 am

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Dec 22 2011,10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- i may have to buy a bushwagon ... bitting my tongue while 'OUCH!' i wrote that ... maybe my Bronco be acceptable if its released in time

Come on Ian dont sink so low, I'm sure a Harrier will be perfect for these airfields

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