Strictly FSX

[Olderndirt]

Downloaded and installed Aerosoft's 'Cheyenne' and now FSX loads only to the splash screen then 'fatal error'. Whether or not there's a relationship is still a question (on the Aerosoft forum) but Google did reveal another having the identical problem. I've uninstalled the 'Cheyenne' but no change. The problem areas listed in the error message are all located in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX - fsx.cfg/scenery.cfg/dxdiag/fdr.dat/DLL.xml. Ran FSX repair - nothing. Tried deleting the .cfg and generating a new one - nothing. OS-xp/FSXgold.

[Adamski]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Jun 17 2012,2:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Downloaded and installed Aerosoft's 'Cheyenne' and now FSX loads only to the splash screen then 'fatal error'. Whether or not there's a relationship is still a question (on the Aerosoft forum) but Google did reveal another having the identical problem. I've uninstalled the 'Cheyenne' but no change. The problem areas listed in the error message are all located in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX - fsx.cfg/scenery.cfg/dxdiag/fdr.dat/DLL.xml. Ran FSX repair - nothing. Tried deleting the .cfg and generating a new one - nothing. OS-xp/FSXgold.

Ooooh dear. Bad luck

Seeing as dxdiag is mentioned in that error message ... have you tried re-installing your GFX drivers? Probably the only thing you *haven't* tried

Also - try running dxdiag from the Windows "run" menu. It could throw up a problem (or not!).

[Ian Warren]

I'll had a FSX crash yesterday afternoon and last night with a similar error , every was running perfect and only 80Gb installed so far , i had 36 saved flights , on removing those WX files it also include 36 fsx.exe files , i defraged using UD3 started a new flight saving it as default ... Flightsim is up and running again .

[Adamski]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 17 2012,2:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll had a FSX crash yesterday afternoon and last night with a similar error , every was running perfect and only 80Gb installed so far , i had 36 saved flights , on removing those WX files it also include 36 fsx.exe files , i defraged using UD3 started a new flight saving it as default ... Flightsim is up and running again .

I think you're onto something there. The Cheyenne maybe tried to set itself as the default startup flight (and got its knickers in a twist)? Wouldn't a brand new fsx.cfg solve that one though?

Any ideas as to what caused your crash, Ian?

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Adamski @ Jun 17 2012,4:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Any ideas as to what caused your crash, Ian?

Installing the CS777 SP03 , i had a few 777 flights saved , another thing that is playing up is the Goflight autopilot module - may also be due to the CS test fly setup , then to finish me off install some software for tonights MP , i believe its the first - installing the CS777 that the cause .

I did have had some new payware years back do the same issue as Dave's , recall i did the same fix .

[Ian Warren]

This is strictly not a FSX issue .. reading about Wobbly's world tour i recall , the same problem happened with the the PMDG1900 D for FS9, worked fine then on buying the C model , maybe something in the model panel coding , still have both hangered and never resolved the problem - sorta went away with another new model .. back the was then .. SCFA Lockheed Constellation .

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 16 2012,7:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll had a FSX crash yesterday afternoon and last night with a similar error , every was running perfect and only 80Gb installed so far , i had 36 saved flights , on removing those WX files it also include 36 fsx.exe files , i defraged using UD3 started a new flight saving it as default ... Flightsim is up and running again .

Only got a small part of that Ian - spell it out for me, slowly .

[Ian Warren]

Dave , go to My Documents , go to your Flight Simulator X Files , select all files and delete them or put into a new folder in case you want to keep a flight .

When you restart FSX it would say 'corrupt flight' then require you the start a new default , you will not have any flights to choose from .

Personally i scrap flights , this is what i did and now working fine now .

If you have any payware folders : example i have three

AerosoftAirbus
AerosoftBronco
AerosoftHuey

Ok to leave them in the Flight Simulator X Files folder .

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 17 2012,4:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Dave , go to My Documents , go to your Flight Simulator X Files , select all files and delete them or put into a new folder in case you want to keep a flight .

When you restart FSX it would say 'corrupt flight' then require you the start a new default , you will not have any flights to choose from .

Personally i scrap flights , this is what i did and now working fine now .

If you have any payware folders : example i have three

AerosoftAirbus
AerosoftBronco
AerosoftHuey

Ok to leave them in the Flight Simulator X Files folder .

The only thing in that folder was 'Logbook.BIN' - deleted that, no change.

[Ian Warren]

Could you do a search for WX files , I run FSX on D drive , my logbook files get logged on C ... best i look for my 'Logbook.BIN' files , might shed some light on the prob.

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 17 2012,6:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Could you do a search for WX files , I run FSX on D drive , my logbook files get logged on C ... best i look for my 'Logbook.BIN' files , might shed some light on the prob.

Ian - the only file with 'WX' in it is in the FSX 'hidden' folder and it's Prevwx.BIN. Those .BIN files are unreadable to me.

[Ian Warren]

Strange , same program but places file into different places , again had another lockup , so again deleted only files and away the FSX started running again.
This is the saved flight from last night ,


The first file is ..... Microsoft Flight Simulation Application
The second is ..... C:\Program Files (x86)\MicrosoftGames\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe
The third WX ......

Logbook , like you cannot access but sure thats for part of FS were people can check log within the FSX program .

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 18 2012,4:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Strange , same program but places file into different places , again had another lockup , so again deleted only files and away the FSX started running again.
This is the saved flight from last night ,


The first file is ..... Microsoft Flight Simulation Application
The second is ..... C:\Program Files (x86)\MicrosoftGames\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe
The third WX ......

Logbook , like you cannot access but sure thats for part of FS were people can check log within the FSX program .

Different OS - mine's XPpro.

[toprob]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Jun 19 2012,1:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Different OS - mine's XPpro.

Just a couple of observations from Ian's screenshot. FSX saves flights to the 'Flight Simulator X Files' folder in 'My Documents' for XP, or 'Documents' for Windows 7 -- same location, just a different name. Ian has known file extensions hidden, which might be a bit confusing for comparing two different systems. Windows Explorer may appear differently on your system.

It is worthwhile tracking down these saved files, though, as they are a very common cause of loading problems. I'd just sort the Saved Flights into date order and delete the latest one to see if this is the issue. If you regularly save flights, you should be able to test this first by loading an earlier flight from the Flight | Load menu.

[Olderndirt]

QUOTE (toprob @ Jun 18 2012,7:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just a couple of observations from Ian's screenshot. FSX saves flights to the 'Flight Simulator X Files' folder in 'My Documents' for XP, or 'Documents' for Windows 7 -- same location, just a different name. Ian has known file extensions hidden, which might be a bit confusing for comparing two different systems. Windows Explorer may appear differently on your system.

It is worthwhile tracking down these saved files, though, as they are a very common cause of loading problems. I'd just sort the Saved Flights into date order and delete the latest one to see if this is the issue. If you regularly save flights, you should be able to test this first by loading an earlier flight from the Flight | Load menu.

Other than Log.Bin, there was nothing in my C:\My Documents\Flight Simulator X. Deleted the Log.bin so now it's empty.

[toprob]

QUOTE (Olderndirt @ Jun 20 2012,3:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Other than Log.Bin, there was nothing in my C:\My Documents\Flight Simulator X. Deleted the Log.bin so now it's empty.

Do you ever save a flight? You won't find any Saved Flights if you've never saved any, I guess. Although a corrupt Save Flight is very common, if you don't have any then it must be something else:)

You did say that you didn't find any 'WX' files at all, but there should be a few at least -- they would be in the FSX\Flights folder, a few Kiosk flights and some default flights. It is possible that an installer has saved something there, so it is worthwhile looking to see if there's a recent addition -- the Kiosk and default flight files are probably dated 2006, so if you have one dated 2012 then it might be the problem.

[Adamski]

QUOTE (toprob @ Jun 20 2012,10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you ever save a flight? You won't find any Saved Flights if you've never saved any, I guess. Although a corrupt Save Flight is very common, if you don't have any then it must be something else:)

But the default flight would be there, Shirley?

Dave - have you got "show extensions" enabled in your Explorer window? You should have trios of flights: XXX.FLT, XXX.FSSAVE and XXX.WX ... in flights/kiosk/other ... apart from any ones of your own you may have added (in "My Documents" - or wherever your OS puts them).

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Adamski @ Jun 20 2012,3:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But the default flight would be there, Shirley?

Who the hell is Shirley ?

One thing Rob pointed out last visit here was 'Previous Flight' option in my , the menu for flights - this option has not appeared since my last complete re-install off FSX ? .. I do remember the same instance when FSX in XP and was easier to find a saved flight .

I wonder , create a flight and save it with a unique file name , you would be able to backtrack asking the PC to search the file thus finding all the earlier logged flights .

[Adamski]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 20 2012,3:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I wonder , create a flight and save it with a unique file name , you would be able to backtrack asking the PC to search the file thus finding all the earlier logged flights .

Aaah ... but grasshoppa ... he can't even get FSX to run

[toprob]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 20 2012,3:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Who the hell is Shirley ?

One thing Rob pointed out last visit here was 'Previous Flight' option in my , the menu for flights - this option has not appeared since my last complete re-install off FSX ? .. I do remember the same instance when FSX in XP and was easier to find a saved flight .

I wonder , create a flight and save it with a unique file name , you would be able to backtrack asking the PC to search the file thus finding all the earlier logged flights .

Yes, I went looking for some info on why this was available on your FSX but not mine -- this is actually part of the autosave option available in FSUIPC.