Need some feedback

[scaber]

I'm looking for a small business type jet (4-6 passengers) which can cruise at 320-350 knots. I've looked at a few but they each have advantages and disadvantages, the main one being the price of anything that looks impressive!!

Flight 1 Cessna Citation Mustang - seems good but expensive
Eaglesoft Citation - I wondered if this was a bit old?
Extreme Prototypes 20 series Business jets
Feelthere Embraer Phenom 100
Wilco Embraer Cessna Citation
Lionheart Epic Victory - like the look of this but it's not an actual production aircraft as fas as I can see

There are probably others that would fit my needs to but haven't come across them

• I want to be able to use instruments (one review said the Wilco one didn't allow IFR which seems a bit strange,
• start quickly so I can participate in group flights without having to go through the full startup procedure, but perhaps still have the option for a full on cold and dark start for other times.
• It must also run on windows 8 (I've seen a comment that the Flight 1 Mustang doesn't run on windows 8)
• Be fast - some of the planned flights are over 300nm and we usually only have 60-90 minutes for each session

This is one of those times that a downloadable trial would be nice so I could try them all and pick the one that suits me most....

Any suggestions or personal experience would be nice to receive.




TIA
Greg

[Charl]

Didn't even know Flight Simulator could run under WIN 8! so can't advise on that score, but I have the Phenom which is a real kick the tyres light the fires kind of bizjet.
"Lite" I believe they call the systems - but it certainly goes IFR.

[Ian Warren]

Andrew "trolly" raved about the Feelthere Embraer Phenom 100 , ironic Ham has just taken photo's of one that stop in Hamilton , guess that the best start , email Andy

[scaber]

QUOTE (Charl @ Apr 11 2013,4:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Didn't even know Flight Simulator could run under WIN 8! so can't advise on that score, but I have the Phenom which is a real kick the tyres light the fires kind of bizjet.
"Lite" I believe they call the systems - but it certainly goes IFR.

Oh yes, definitely runs under windows 8 - no major problems. The only hiccup being the 5 or 6 attempts before it registered on line, but been fine since then.

Yeah, I found the comment about lack of IFR a bit hard to believe, thanks for that.

[Sonnyj]

Falcon 50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKU9DdTCvyY

Try this one, I am not 100% about the instruments tho, - just cause I fly vfr. ;-)

but it goes real nice, and the price is great!

cheers sonnyj

[Chairman]

Anything you get from Flight1 you can get a refund on no questions asked, so the Mustang and anything else you buy from there effectively has a trial version.

The G1000 in the Mustang, which is the same G1000 used in the T182T. does not acknowledge vnav in any way - if I remember rightly you can't even enter crossing altitudes. The arguement the fanboys use is that the real Mustang G1000 doesn't control anything so what's the problem ? Well, the one in the real 'stang tells you what vertical speed you need to hit your next target, that's kind of useful to know if you're doing proper IFR.

[husker]

Have had the F1 Mustang since it was released - still my favourite. Great around NZ airports and can get in and out of quite short fields. There a 3 real ones resident in NZ.

The latest version 1.08 works and is supported on Windows 8 (which is what I use)

[ZKIWI]

I absolutely Love the Feelthere Phenom. Fast and easy(isn) to fly with an accurate flight model.

[scaber]

Well, I've narrowed it down to the Flight-1 citation mustang or the Feelthere Phenom. I've looked at pictures of the others and they seem a bit lacking somehow in the finish of the flightdeck and/or the exterior. I'm a little worried about the reports that the Flight-1 Citation has a big effect on frame rates and as I've experienced that with their ATR-500 that makes me a little wary of jumping that direction.

Thanks to all of you for your input, I'm still dithering a bit but starting to settle!

[Ian Warren]

Greg , just buy the B-52 ... If you require a runway .. layin a stick of bombs ... wait up-stair's for engineers to roll out the Tarmac .. Voila !

[husker]

F1 Mustang Citation can be heavy on the frames - don't forget money back guarantee from Flight1 so worth trying, and just get a refund if it doesn't work out.

[nz401]

Hi there. I fly the Cj1 from Eaglesoft and have done so since 2005. I have been on several world trips and it is still my all time favorite payware plane ( although QW146 is challenging that position ). I am looking at getting the upgrade for FSX. The Cj1 is very user friendly..

Cheers